Ars Technica has a review that not only looks “under the hood” at Tiger, but takes the engine apart and catalogs all the pieces for us to see. The article takes note particularly of the many improvements in Tiger that will benefit Mac developers, that end-users will only begin to benefit from when the next crop of new Mac apps starts to come onto the scene.
Some random thoughts (yes, I did read TFA, almost completely):
– Maybe those new Mail buttons aren’t so good usability-wise, but I still think it looks way better than the old Mail.
– It really surprises me that Apple does not allow the usage of parentheses in Spotlight, thus a query like “(type=.jpg or type=.jpeg) size > 100kb” are not possible.
– It seems like Tiger .0 is a little buggy but has great new features. I especially think it is nice that Spotlight is really integrated into the core of the OS.
– Does moving Quartz-2D to the graphics card make resizing windows smoother? Resizing Safari on a new iBook doesn’t work that great.
All in all, a great, in-depth review.
No, I think it looks much better. But there should be a unique UI for all apps (no brushed_metal or so) and the ability to choose this platform-wide by using system_preferences.
ARS simply has the best reviews ever!
Ars Tech says window resizing has made a large improvement.
-Kevin
Sadly, I don’t think a lot of users will see the new developer features for a good long while, except maybe for the case of open-source software. A good many people I know are still using 10.2 and likely won’t shell out for Tiger, so I think many businesses will be ignoring Tiger’s new frameworks for the sake of market penetration.
What a thorough review!
I’m feeling pretty ambivalent about Tiger right now, having spent an hour corresponding on the apple support boards to find out where all my email had gone (it hadn’t gone anywhere, but Mail had no intention of letting me see it, or of letting me close the application).
I’m also finding it buggy in smaller ways: it wouldn’t highlight a selected file, for instance, and it shows a non-existant user on the login screen but not in the preferences where I could delete it.
ANd in my opinion (but I realise this is just a very personal opinion) the new UI colours look like a bad KDE theme. Not a good one (of which) I’ve seen several, but one that just wasn’t quite right. It may have lost that weird shiny, stripy feel of 10, 10.1 and 10.2, but it’s gained an odd gaudiness.
If you like it though, be thankful and enjoy it!
cheers!
Ars Tech says window resizing has made a large improvement.
LOL! Maybe next release they’ll throw in a decent file manager. Maybe they’ll let you play videos FULL SCREEN! WOW! That’ll be SO NEAT!
As opposed to the Fisher Price theme that comes with XP?
At least you can turn it off in XP. On an Apple, it’s
Jobs’ way or the highway.
Yeah, they must have made a huge improvement. This is the first OS X review from Ars Technica that hasn’t devoted at least half the review to the percieved slowness of window resizing. But it’s only 4 pages. I imagine they’ll release an expanded one on Monday or so. It’ll probably devote 10 or 12 pages to window resizing.
Ignore that part about the 4 pages. For some reason, my browser wan’t downloading the bottom of the fourth page (with the next link), so I assumed it had ended there. I just went up to the dropdown box and noticed the other 17 pages.
” On an Apple, it’s Jobs’ way or the highway.”
You’re not kidding there. Look what he did to MacThemes.org.
Ars rocks, a great in-depth review of the new Mac 10.4
Damn good review. I read only bits of the 20 pages stuff, but read the whole of page 21 (conclusion). Impressive review, and tiger does look nice.
Might be time for Apple mini
Mail By Anonymous
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– It really surprises me that Apple does not allow the usage of parentheses in Spotlight, thus a query like “(type=.jpg or type=.jpeg) size > 100kb” are not possible.
[SNIP REST]
Well I can do that when searching in BeOS, I thought the programmers from Be that moved to Apple would insure that feature for any search engine on OS-X. Can anyone think of a good reason why they would leave something like that out.
Personally I rarely need to do a search with nested parentheses but when it is needed it sure does save big time on doing a large number of simple searches and combining them by hand.
This review shows exactly why I like OSX so much: perfection under the hood.
( There are some things to iron out, but in the spirit of Apple, that will happen fast )
Now if just somebody was willing ( and able ! ) to review Windows in this way!
( Longhorn takes so long because MS has been trying to figure out how their own OS works in the last four years )
From the article, I understand that Spotlight is totally un-Apple like, in the sense that for a change it is very good under the hood, but has a total crap UI.
Parentheses are not provided, it seems, because that would be too confusing for the average user. If you are experienced enough to want them, go ahead and use the commandline or write your own tool because the Spotlight API does support them…
Why does everybody who harps on Apple’s Aqua/Brushed Metal split believe that every application has to look exactly the same? I like that some apps looks different from others…THEY ARE DIFFERENT APPS. It would be boring looking if everything looked exacly the same. How similar do Windows apps look to each other? Not very. Word 2003 looks nothing like Photoshop which looks nothing like Nero which looks nothing like Ad-Aware which looks nothing like Limewire, and no one seems to mind this. So why does everybody get their panties in a bunch when every single application on a Mac doesn’t look exactly the same? It’s silly.
… you don’t mind the inconsistency of themes. I find it actually allows me to distinguish between applications while I’m working, and that is a good thing. On the other hand, you should also do so at your peril. While the new theme in Mail may be hideous, I have seen far worse.
Anyhow, I kinda wish I didn’t read that article because they sort of sold me on 10.4. While very few of the big features appeal to me, some of the little ones (which barely receive mention on Apple’s website) do.
I think that even though I am an XP user that the Tiger release has some remarkable under the hood features. But lets face it folks, I was reading somewhere that the Dual 2.5 ghz monster PowerMac is as fast as an Athlon FX @ 2.6 ghz, if only maybe a slight bit faster. Think about it this way. You mac people may have a gem of an OS and I am jealous…and we may have a “shiny turd” of an OS as you put it, but when it comes to hardware, your dual proc systems are just as fast running on an awesome OS as an Athlon FX running on a “shiny turd”. Its time Mac seriously updated their hardware. And I am no optimist but I would rather wait to see Longhorn come out (on time hehe) and see how much of an improvement it is over XP and OS X Tiger. It could be a slam dunk win on the part of MS or it could blow ass. But from what I am seeing besides the DRM stuff and the GUI (yuck!) Longhorn is going to be at least as feature complete as the OS X Tiger is. But anyway kudos to a job well done on the part of the Mac devs. OS X really looks awesome.
Both are transferred NeXT technologies, rewritten respectively to eliminate a Display Postscript tax imposed by Adobe on NeXT (they wanted to raise the tax for Apple after the merger) as well as I/O Kit being redesigned NeXT Device Driver toolkit in C++ because its fearless leader, Dean Reece (former colleague) wanted to leverage the C++ base that was growing with Linux and other BSDs and make it less work for vendors to provide drivers (meaning he didn’t want to push ObjC on vendors after learning how much of a pain it was at NeXT to do so for x86).
Clearly these folks aren’t ObjC Cocoa developers who know much about Foundation APIs and AppKit APIs let alone the new Core Data (reformed EOF) amongst so on and so forth.
“Chapter 11: File types revisited” is a fascinating read.
” On an Apple, it’s Jobs’ way or the highway.”
You’re not kidding there. Look what he did to MacThemes.org.
That’s not very unreasonable. You have to understand that those companies put millions dollars into UI design and projects. If they do, they actually have a goal.
For what it might look weird to you, giving consistency and coherence to UIs is not a silly or optional job. When you use an UI you develop unconscious associations which lead yourself to associate something (an object) to an action. Providing a way to develop easy and good associations IS a key factor to let your users become more productive and then your system will be perceived as more productive as well. This is not a joke. It’s a billions dollars achievement.
While customizing is nice, it is not a ‘right’ which can overcome design goals. And I’m speaking of theory: I don’t own a Mac But that’s true for EVERY system… even for your car player.
I always love ARS Technica reviews. They really stand out from all the other computer “journalists”.
Although Tiger looks really nice, I’d love Finder’s spatial mode to be totally usable. TBH, it’s a bit kludgy. Also, I’d like read and write functionality in Finder for FTP and SFTP servers.
I’ve heard that launchd radically reduces OS X’s startup time. Can anyone clarify if the startup time really is smaller than Panther’s?
Great, thorough review. If only more were like this one.
I see the foolio trolls are out in force with more postings on Mac articles than real Mac users. I’ll leave Longhorn to the herds of cattle out there. Ain’t worried about Longworn anyway thats what 10.5 is for.
Good things in 10.4 not mentioned is native PDF-X distilling, Keychain actually can be sorted out in a coherent manner, speed improvements even on G3s it seems and for those with duals watch your boot times becomes ridiculously fast.
Thank you FreeBSD for all the advancements you have made in FreeBSD 5.x. The advancements you have made in fine-grained threading, scheduling, and a host slew of other features have allowed us to compete and reduce our overall budget tremendously. Before FreeBSD, we had MacOS, which lacked any type of scalability and was severely underpowered. After using your code, we have MacOS X. You allowed us to be a contender again.
That said, however because we are so greedy, rather than donating millions to the FreeBSD foundation so that you may continue to enhance the OS in a direction aimed only towards technical excellence, we will keep our money and shoot ourselves in the foot. We realize in the long run, keeping FreeBSD healthy is extremely beneficial to us (since you go for the hard, technical solutions rather than make compromises on everything like we do) but since we are so greedy and shortsighted, we won’t make such contributions.
Last time I heard, Apple was contributing code not money. That’s what open source projects are all about.. right? right??
From TFA:
“The Tiger Finder now correctly shows files when they are created and makes them disappear when they are deleted.”
Finally!
But why is it necessary to bring up Longhorn? Is the article about longhorn? any longhorn issues arrise in it? any cheap jabs by the author?
Good lord, I swear some guys/garls take their operating system of choice waaaaaaaay to seriously.
Someone buy this guy a clue;
1) MacOS X is absed on Mach 3.0, which was developed by OSF – Tru64 is based on Mach 2.5, NeXT was based on Mach 3.0.
2) BSD is only a *SUBSYSTEM* – there are many other systems that support BSD extensions; IRIX supports BSD 4.3 Extensions, along with AIX and Solaris.
3) The enhancements to Mac OS X Tiger will be made available via their darwin website – any *BSD is welcome to have a look and borrow parts they deem necessary.
Dude, you havew absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Apple mentions FreeBSD on almost every place Unix is mentioned, and if you *care* to read some changelogs, Apple code DOES GO upstream. Quickie: LOADS of dosfs fixes. Quickie: a TON of GCC work.
And, once more: how many times must it be told that Darwin uses a modified Mach 3 kernel, and not the FreeBSD one? Darwin’s “appropriation” of FreeBSD is mostly confined to USERLAND tools.
Really… Don’t put yourself to shame by saying such uninformed comments.
Whoa! The reviewer has a serious case of “pomposidoso grandiosa”. On top of that, he gives new meaning to the word, windbag.
This quote is just amazing:
“Even if this widget stuff doesn’t pan out, Apple has an easy escape plan: make the Dashboard layer open to any application, or perhaps even individual windows from applications.”
Doesn’t pan out? Are you kidding? Dashboard is the talk of Tiger! People are gonna love it.
Wow. Is that the best you could come up with? I always thought WIndrones were pretty bland. This just proves it.
I’m surprised I didn’t notice it earlier but the lack of user extensible metadata in Spotlight is pretty lame (unless you count keywords). But as the article says, the low level file system features on which to implement them are there. By latest estimates they’ve got about 18 months to get them in there first. About perfect for their new release cycle.
meh.. a dedicated ftp client is better than integrated ftp support.
never use explorer on windows for http://FTP.. why use it in finder even if it was read/write?
what I want in finder is split-able views.
umm.. you cannot get everything into one release dude.. look at what happened to longhorn.
Last time I heard, Apple was contributing code not money. That’s what open source projects are all about.. right? right??
You might want to read this: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/view/1001
…be integrated into the gui (Finder), allowing the user to add his/her own like on BeOS. That was great… Maybe for “Lion”?
Decent review. Looks like there will be followup sections to it, as well to cover the other enhancements for Tiger.
I am excited about the kernel enhancements and hope to see more of their like in the future! Truthfully, I forget about the underlying *NIX heritage because I rarely have need to drop to that level, but the better the core, the better the whole system.
that seems to be a KDE problem, not an apple problem. Apple is building a browser that will work well with THEIR OS. they have the changes there for anyone who wants them> KDE decided not to use them because it would mess up the way their code works in other areas.
Giving back does not literally mean giving back, it means exposing your code so others MAY use it if they like.
You don’t get it, do you? The initial idea seemed to be a joint-project. What happened instead was that Apple took the code, modified and improved it ’till it became something completely different, and only in very rare cases they hand out individual patches to KHTML. They _do_ follow the LGPL, they release the WebCore sources, but it became an incompatible fork, not a joint project. And that’s not really KDE’s fault – KDE just doesn’t have the time nor manpower to check the whole WebCore code and fiddle out usable parts that might be hacked into KHTML (with lots of additional work). And while Apple does comply with the LGPL, they don’t really play fair. Apple couldn’t have done Safari without the KDE project, after all – so I think they could at least try get their modifications back into KDE. They don’t even give the KDE devs the credit they deserve…
Makes me hope that some hardcore hackers show up to heavily improve KHTML soon, maybe even a company throwing loads of money at it, as it would be impossible for Apple to get those improvements in WebCore without restarting from scratch. Maybe that would make them think?
Anyway, with gcc, it’s similar. They don’t really do that much to improve gcc mainline. They have their own, Apple-only gcc fork, and just tried to get support for ObjectiveC in the official gcc 4.0 – didn’t work, BTW…
Define what you mean by this:
The initial idea seemed to be a joint-project. What happened instead was that Apple took the code, modified and improved it ’till it became something completely different, and only in very rare cases they hand out individual patches to KHTML.
Very rare cases? Drop some examples on us. And if you follow the lists, I think there is mutual respect between the Apple guys and the KDE guys. These are just my observations but I would like to hear what you observing?
And by the way, they certainly could have done Safari without KHTML and you know it.
Well, I just dropped John an email on the matter, but as somebody who works a library reference desk (at a university library), dood just has no clue of the extent to which boolean search syntax is NOT understood.
Now, I understand that when, on a database’s advanced search feature that when Type in John Smith next to the AUTHOR line, and Flaming hyperdimensional polyhedrals next to SUBJECT, and polyhedrals next to KEYWORD and 1995 next to AFTER, that what I am doing is constructing a boolean search without having to speak “Booleanese”.
I couldn’t even begin to write that query in Boolean syntax. It’s just so completely alien to the structure of English.
We’ve completely dropped Boolean operators from our catalogs. Even with hints, instructions, examples right on the screen the concept simply was not grasped. Even after sitting with students for 10+ minutes and trying to explain/show what a boolean query was and how to structure them, the amount of handholding was very intense.
And frankly, I’m a math retard, so I never was very good at constructing boolean queries anyway.
What is needed is the sort of programming that “speaks” the language. However, given the variety of ways that meaning is constructed through language — is the language synthetic, analytic, or agglutinative in nature? — this is a very complex problem whose solution is not easy.
“Wow. Is that the best you could come up with? I always thought WIndrones were pretty bland. This just proves it.”
As I post this from Suse 9.3 I just laugh at being called a Windrone and wonder what exactly you have proven… Actually, I take it back, I already know the answer.
Looks like OS X will finally get some half-decent metadata support. It’ll be an interesting race to watch, who will be able to turn out something on par with BeOS’ implmentation first: OS X, or Haiku?
umm… if they have a problem with a fork (that happens when two parties have differing opinions/needs) then perhaps KDE should not be an OSS project?
“we want open source software so all can do what they like.. it is freedom!!!”
and then they turn around and say
“but only if you do what we want you to do.”
sort of like freedom of speech except if I do not like what you say.
what do you mean by this?
Anyway, with gcc, it’s similar. They don’t really do that much to improve gcc mainline. They have their own, Apple-only gcc fork, and just tried to get support for ObjectiveC in the official gcc 4.0 – didn’t work, BTW…
http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.0/changes.html
try reading the change logs some time.
I think that guy’s rant is a little exaggerated and over-the-top. If the khtml-devel lists are browsed, you can actually seen the Apple ppl and the KDE ppl talking and discussing patches and features, and collaborating.
The guy seems to be off base to say that nothing at all as happening, as they are definitely communicating and discussing developments. Sure, it is probably not as much collaboration as should be done, but it is definitely going on.
For example, here’s the april 2005 archives:
http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/khtml-devel/2005-April/thread.html
(Apple guys are Dave Hyatt, Maciej Stachowiak, the rest are KDE guys)
I think he meant ObjectiveC++.
> If the khtml-devel lists are browsed, you can actually seen the Apple ppl and the KDE ppl talking and discussing patches and features, and collaborating.
How is your definition of collaborating? -> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/view/1001
the fact he does not know the difference shows he is lacking in knowledge of the subject in the first place.
BTW.. Regarding GCC.. Apple maintains ObjC++ front-ends.. that does not mean that the GCC that ships with OS X is some fork.
arg, I wish people would frigen learn about something before commenting on it.
wtf? you reposted the link that was being refuted as refutation of what he posted?
smart one.
Apple is (again) ripping off non US-customers.
Education Price in the US USD 69.00
Education Price in Germany EUR 89.32 (about USD 115.00)
German price includes 16% VAT, so you end up with a Price of USD 99.00
Does anyone know if you can choose different languages while installing the US version of Tiger?
So i guess the KHTML guys were expecting to have their hands held too, when Apple dropped code on them?
Reality is finally hitting some people on the head.
Anyhow, I kinda wish I didn’t read that article because they sort of sold me on 10.4. While very few of the big features appeal to me, some of the little ones (which barely receive mention on Apple’s website) do.
That’s where the bite is, buddy
. The big stuff is where they get the markedroids happy and lure the tentative users, the fancy tricks under the hood are for the connoisseur who chortles at the great opportunities he perceives.
Go get yourself a cat, man. You know you want it.
This is the best review on OSAlert for ages.
Excellent Job; Thanks
Now, parentheses may already be too complicated for most people, shocking though that is, but they could still be supported for the minority who do know how to use them.
But anyway, what exactly is so difficult about Boolean queries? You couldn’t get any more plain English than e.g. “Apple and not Microsoft” or “Jobs or Wozniak”.
Btw, who’s John?
Overall a very nice review. You should know that John has set very high standards for the new Apple OS team and his quibbles affect mainly geeks and nerds.
Although I have been using Macs since late 80s, I had no problem adjusting to the new finder paradigm. After reading his first review of Os X, I thought Os X would not work for me since, according to John the Finder was anything but spatial was completely alien to Mac users in its behavior. I stayed in Os 9 for many months even though I could dual-boot to Os X (which came pre-installed). When I finally booted into Os X, I was completely floored at how much Mac Os had changed but still remained the same. I tried all my usual tricks and they all worked! Even stuff like command clicking the title in Finder windows and being able to traverse directory paths. The systems preferences were few and very clean, a la System 6.0. I was hooked on Os X right then, it was so different but the same. Man, was multi-tasking good!
Tiger is faster than Panther, says John and several other reviewers-I am now typing this on a PowerBook 1.33 Ghz loaded with Panther and it is not slow at all. This proves that it is no longer how fast the machine is, but how well the software is optimized for the hardware. I was always bemused by the PC trolls when they keep harping of how fast their machines are but their machines are not even trying to do things like Quartz extreme like Os X is doing right now. Interestingly the release version has Quartz Extreme 2d turned off but the Os still feels snappy to John. I will be awaiting further optimization and release of updates to Tiger that will finally fix this. That should improve speed further. It is like buying a faster computer!
On another note, John feels the same as me that ‘killing Konfabulator and Watson’ was tasteless on Apples part and would discourage small time developers from trying to use the new technologies in Os X to do cool stuff.
Tiger cometh and improves upon Panther in ways I did not know was possible. I should be installing Tiger today, if it comes as it is supposed to.
Cheers
Now that’s what I call a review – take note all you OSAlert Special Contributors! If you can’t match the quality of that review, then what you write ain’t reviews.
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Just for the record, I’d like to point out that the PDF version of this is a 106 page document.
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Now that’s a review!
I have to say Tiger and the sensible product range (EUR500 Mac Mini, EUR850 eMac, EUR1400 iMac and EUR1600 PowerMac) are really selling me on the Apple way, after years of feeling they were a company that sold overpriced style instead of substance.
They seemed to have done well.
annoying that it only comes on DVD, and you have to send off for CD versions
Did they fix their posix shared memory implementation? Heck I’ll settle for a SysV shared memory implementation, I just need one that WORKS.
Actually, if you understand Booleanese, you can go ahead and type those search strings and you won’t have a problem.
We’ve just given up having the instructions there on the first search page in favor of having links to an adavanced search search page wherein you construct a boolean search via clicking on options. We never have to explain how that page works.
But anyway, what exactly is so difficult about Boolean queries? You couldn’t get any more plain English than e.g. “Apple and not Microsoft” or “Jobs or Wozniak”.
Because people aren’t typing that. They were typing Apple without Microsoft. Or Apple but not Microsoft or Apple no Microsoft.
Because it’s not intuive to type things like (Apple)- Microsoft or even “(Apple)- Microsoft)” or to have to put quotes “” around things like Jobs or Wozniak or explain to somebody that Jobs or Wozniak and “Jobs or Wozniak” are actually two different kinds of searches.
Now try explaing to somebody why mentions of Bill Gates keep showing up after they’ve typed (“Jobs + Wozniak”)- “Bill Gates” , and what they really need to try is something like (“Jobs + Wozniak)- Gates – “Bill Gates”
Because yeah, figureing out how to type all that out was so much like phrasing the same request in English.
And, who is John? I mean John Siracusa, the guy who wrote the article.
because no one who has a mac from the last 6 years has a dvd drive?
DVD only is nice because then I can set it and walk away.
Whenever some Mac guys come into a Windows forum and poke fun at Windows, they always claimed the Mac and OS X are almost PURRfect.
Well this review dug up the bad with the good. Plenty of bad at that. Things that only experienced Mac users would know. But then Windows users wouldn’t be bothered to know such details. All we know is that people who worship a computer are weird and certainly far from being honest about the flaws. I don’t think the Mac folks like Windows people to see that their worshipped OS X have warts too.
I guess that’s why this review don’t attract the hundreds of comments from the Mac folks unlike those on Longhorn
I guess you do not do too much reading of the mac stories, but most of the comments are arguments started by win/lin trolls.
If you’re having problems with mail and you did an Upgrade or Archive and Install… the http-mail plugin could be your problem. Having the http-mail plugin (used to access Hotmail from Mail) installed for the previous version of Mail will cause import of the old mailboxes and accounts to fail when starting up the new Mail 2.0.
Best bet if you haven’t installed yet and use the plugin; remove http-mail before you upgrade to Tiger.
Somebody found some documentation about the new launchd “init system replacement”[1] that ships with Tiger? I would like to find some docs about it, but didn’t find anything.
Pretty please?
[1] Sorry for such a naive comparison
Since I bourght my Mac (a B/W PowerMac G3, which is supported according to Apple) 6 years and 1 month ago, and it therefore does not have a DVD drive. Since Apple claim that my Mac is supported it would be rather nice to be able to load the software at all, even if I do have to come back every so often to change disks. They could have at least mentioned this when I bought it.
“I guess that’s why this review don’t attract the hundreds of comments from the Mac folks unlike those on Longhorn
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Actually you are wrong on this account. Look at the moderated down comments. All PC users and their only experience with MacOSX is pictures on websites. A majority of them are totally clueless about MacOSX such as yourself.
Mac users don’t really care about Windows or Longhorn. We are not the ones waiting until the end of 2006 and when Longhorn is out 10.5 will have been out for months and development of 10.6 will already be underway. So like I said not a concern.
Look at the Longhorn articles and you will find that a majority of the negative comments are from PC users on such ridiculous things like hitting the START button and half of your screen is gone. Have fun.
umm.. so get some CDs from them. or better yet.. go get a DVD-RW for 50 bucks.. install it into your system and your done.. you get an updated system for cheap (30 bucks now a days for a DVD-RW) and you get to install tiger with the media that is shipped.
Not ideal but it does help. Install a Pioneer DVR109 drive. About $60 at newegg and use the PatchBurn utility.
The author’s writing style is verbose and redundant. However, the review was thorough, detailed and top notch. Tiger has an impressive graphics subsystem. It is arguably the best relative to alternative desktop platforms available today. Tiger’s user interface is a disaster. Even GNOME demonstrates more consistency. All in all, it’s good to see Apple pushing the limits of desktop computing by creating rich user experiences. In the end, it’s all about the user experience.
Tiger is simply the most advanced desktop operating system in existence. Nothing else even comes close. I can’t stand going back to XP on my work laptop. But then that was true with Panther too. Anyone not using a Mac and Tiger doesn’t know what they are missing.
Oh btw Tiger is 55% faster on a G5 than Panther because much of the OS code was optimized for the G5 processor. Eat that Microsoft.
Never fails to crack me up how Windoze users who have never used a Mac dismiss it by saying Mac users are all fanatics. You must be feeling really insecure about your choice of computer if thats the best you can do. Either that or your just not very smart. Or both.
“Never fails to crack me up how Windoze users who have never used a Mac dismiss it by saying Mac users are all fanatics. You must be feeling really insecure about your choice of computer if thats the best you can do. Either that or your just not very smart. Or both.”
Very very typical response from the Mac folks.
I still remember when OS X came out and when I tested it and found it to be horribly slow and SAID so honestly on a PC hardware forum, Mac folks came in and yelled the very same things. Then the next version came out was just as slow. Again the same response from the Mac folks. Very very dishonest. Finally I’m surprised to find a review that dare to be honest. Still the same response from the Mac folks.
They should elect Steve Jobs as the new black pope
Very nice and complete review by Ars.
Upgrade on my powerbook G4 1ghz from 10.3 to 10.4 in 51 minutes, with everything (including UMTS and WiFi), all application and presets/preferences working as usual after the reboot. Emailimport took another 40 minutes (21.000 emails) and spotlight indexing (50Gb of stuff) took about 90 minutes.
During mailimport and spotlight indexing I played with the new features like dashboard and automator. It’s pretty neat. The new mailinterface also appears to be cleaner, although I still have to get used to it.
My powerbook appears to be somewhat faster under Tiger (booting and usage).