By: Fedora 40 released with KDE Plasma 6 and GNOME 46 – OSAlert
[…] Starting at the top, Fedora 40 Workstation comes with the latest GNOME release, 46, which we covered when it was released earlier this year. It also comes with IPV4 Address Conflict Detection to resolve duplicate IPV4 addresses in the same physical network, and the PyTorch machine learning framework is now in the Fedora software repositories for easier installation and implementation by developers – a harbinger of what’s to come. […]
By: franko
An easy way to get into AI is by using Ollama and the models that can be used by it.
https://ollama.com/
https://ollama.com/library
Also, there is a Linux distribution that has already gone big on AI.
https://www.makululinux.com/wp/
By: spiderdroid
AI is nothing more than snake oil, or an attemot to sell corporate giants the Brooklin Bridge. It's all buzzwird with zero substance. That being said, I see the term used as nothing more than a metrics grab that requires the use or subscription to IBM's network, to which you will give them your personal info for free to do what they wish without the individual profiting at all. Lets see what this term does to RHEL.
By: Nia
This has me quite concerned for Fedora. I've recently moved to Fedora and a few weeks afterwards, I see that blog post.
While I appreciate that it's a bit more grounded in reality than most of the AI trend posts that have went around for various projects, this still feels like they are following trends for fear of missing out, rather than providing any actual major benefit to Fedora users.
I'll admit, I'm quite exhausted from a lot of AI discussion and have become quite the AI skeptic, I understand that they can have valid uses, but I believe that their uses do not outweigh the ethical issues and electricity costs of running/training them. It makes me lose a bit of faith in the leadership of Fedora that any ethical issues aside from source code wasn't prioritized, it is very possible for an open source project to ultimately cause more harm than good, and I think that there's a lot of assumptions from people that as long as anything is running on open source code that it can only cause good, when that is not the case.
By: Bill Shooter of Bul
Oh lord, Every few years a stable Distro that just works has to take up some quixotic quest to chase a popular thing. Tablets, phones, cloud, now AI. Just let the distro be, and build a different experience for the new thing with out that thing breaking the distro for everyone else.
I'm an AI realist, it can be useful to augment human capability in specific situations. It could automate parts of the distro build, assuming a human has the bandwidth to test its work.
By: paisley
Yeah, bad vibes... It's always a relief to see you stand for ethics though.
Speaking of your choice of distro, have your requirements changed any since moving away from translation work? Any chance you could daily drive something like Haiku now? I'd love to read your review of its current state... Serenity OS too! Maybe even Picotron! Oh, possibly React OS...?
By: Fedora intends to fully embrace “AI”, but doesn’t address sourcing or its environmental impact – Open World News
[…] Author: Thom Holwerda Source […]
By: j0scher
>They lie, they make stuff up, they bug out and produce nonsense, they’re racist,
I think Google Gemini took the crown lmao
By: Flatland_Spider
Yes, AI has problems, and one of them is proprietary tools and models. This is something FOSS needs to figure out, and consequently, RH since they don't sell anything proprietary. I'm sure RH, CloudLinux, and random CentOS supporting companies would like to get AI tools and libraries into a future release, which is one of the drivers behind this.
Anyway, Fedora is a good distro for this. It's community driven, it's rather experimental, and developers are Fedora's target market. Being able to get an environment quickly setup to experiment with AI is a big first step. It lowers the barrier to entry for people who want to experiment with AI and try to fix some of the problems. "dnf groupinstall 'AI Development Tools and Libraries'" would be pretty nice. I am perfectly capable of setting a complex development environment, but I'd rather use the distro packages for any initial experiments.
This sounds like "We're going to add more features!" rather then anything concerning.
<blockquote>We can use AI/ML as part of making the Fedora Linux OS. New tools could help with package automation and bug triage. They could note anomalies in test results and logs, maybe even help identify potential security issues. We can also create infrastructure-level features for our users. For example, package update descriptions aren’t usually very meaningful. We could automatically generate concise summaries of what’s new in each system update — not just for each package, but highlighting what’s important in the whole set, including upstream change information as well.</blockquote>
These all sound like reasonable suggestions. I'm not sure what "infrastructure-level features" are, but sorting though logs and test results, package automation, and writing descriptions would be very helpful. Those plus suggesting tests are probably the top things I would automate with AI. I don't want to sort through test results or logs, especially at Fedora's scale. I'd rather make the machine do that while I do something else.
We all talk about how FOSS is understaffed (IT departments are always understaffed), but we're pushing back on tools which could help with the workload. It's worth testing out the new tools to see if they help, and it's worth figuring out where their deficiencies are.
My biggest guess about how this is going to work, AI is going to get plugged into Fedora's OpenQA instance. (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OpenQA)
As an aside, this basically sounds like the pitch for GitLab Duo (https://about.gitlab.com/gitlab-duo/), which sounds like an entirely reasonable use of neural nets. Fedora moving to GitLab would be bigger news, and that would be great.
<blockquote>And that’s not something I want to hear from the leaders of my Linux distribution.</blockquote>
It's probably not going to affect anything, just like having lots of development libraries available in the repos doesn't affect the day-to-day of regular people.