By: DeepComputing announces third-party RISC-V mainboard for the Framework 13 laptop – OSAlert
[…] upgradeable, and repairable laptops, and DeepComputing, the same company that’s making the DC ROMA II RISC-V laptop we talked about last week, have announced something incredibly cool: a brand new RISC-V mainboard that fits right into […]
By: franko
Explaining computers shows off the Banana Pi which has the same SOC. It seems a bit slow.
https://youtu.be/GZGryhBnkV0?si=bS98wwudgj752DjB
By: kallisti5
In reply to <a href="https://www.osnews.com/story/139948/canonical-and-deepcomputing-announce-new-risc-v-laptop-shipping-with-ubuntu/#comment-10440659">kallisti5</a>.
I'd *REALLY* like to see more laptops standardize on a "debug port" with some gpio pins, a 3.3v, 5v pin, ground, and some serial pins. It feels like a nice market need for tech folks.
* OS debugging
* Electrical Engineering
* Arduino projects
* Etc.
By: kallisti5
> If you’d like to see this RISC-V laptop make an appearance on OSAlert, let me know, and I’ll see what I can do.
Yes please. riscv64 is pretty damn neat. Hell, Haiku even runs on riscv64 ;-)
By: Enturbulated
In reply to <a href="https://www.osnews.com/story/139948/canonical-and-deepcomputing-announce-new-risc-v-laptop-shipping-with-ubuntu/#comment-10440653">jgfenix</a>.
From a quick glance, looks about the same as GPIO to me, just with a standardized connector you can put on a case instead of wiring direct to mainboard. Advantage with GPIO is that it lets you build your own interfaces, which is occasionally preferable to USB.
By: kurkosdr
In reply to <a href="https://www.osnews.com/story/139948/canonical-and-deepcomputing-announce-new-risc-v-laptop-shipping-with-ubuntu/#comment-10440651">Adurbe</a>.
And that's the issue here, selling a "developer" laptop that runs only the OS it's "certified" for. As if developers develop for only one OS, or even one Linux distro (or one version of one Linux distro). Also, let's see how well the proprietary GPU driver works on LTS.
The problem here is that those ARM and RISC-V SoCs are designed to go into some locked-down trinket like a streaming stick or Smart TV, and some people want to put them into general-purpose laptops because "x86 is bad because it's not open for new licensees". The thing is, x86 has CPUs with iGPUs that come open-source drivers that allow you to run a variety of OSes. And it's not like ARM offers more choice, your only choices realistically are Qualcomm and various SoCs packaging ARM's cores. The same will happen with RISC-V when big players get involved. The fact x86 is not open for new licensees is an academic problem, not a practical one. And AMD's chips are built on a modern process, so they don't guzzle power like Intel's.
By: jgfenix
I don't get what's the point of a geekport when we now have USB.
By: fulgheri
In reply to <a href="https://www.osnews.com/story/139948/canonical-and-deepcomputing-announce-new-risc-v-laptop-shipping-with-ubuntu/#comment-10440647">Bogdanow</a>.
We already got the 4K monitor, assuming that the price is going to be reasonable we could found that laptop for a proper independent review!
By: Adurbe
In reply to <a href="https://www.osnews.com/story/139948/canonical-and-deepcomputing-announce-new-risc-v-laptop-shipping-with-ubuntu/#comment-10440648">kurkosdr</a>.
Because Ubuntu have officially certified the hardware and that's (part of) what the process entails and guarantees.
https://ubuntu.com/certified
Ubuntu's direct involvement ends as soon as you uninstall the certified OS/Hardware combo. If you choose to install something else, a BSD, or even a Newer Ubuntu release. You are on your own, but the LTS its certified against will continue to be supported for the full lifecycle.
By: Squizzler
In reply to <a href="https://www.osnews.com/story/139948/canonical-and-deepcomputing-announce-new-risc-v-laptop-shipping-with-ubuntu/#comment-10440649">Squizzler</a>.
Oh yeah, and it's got what this article calls a geekport - further connection with the BeOS legacy. Definitely a candidate Haiku machine!
By: Squizzler
Sounds like what the Haiku port to this architecture has been waiting for!
Haiku is unusual because the risc-v port is quite far along but its arm port is dead in the water. Canonical might have intended people to entrench its distro of GNU, but for me Haiku would displace that legacy OS on day one.
By: kurkosdr
In reply to <a href="https://www.osnews.com/story/139948/canonical-and-deepcomputing-announce-new-risc-v-laptop-shipping-with-ubuntu/#comment-10440636">Adurbe</a>.
<blockquote> There will be a compatible driver with their LTS version (I assume 24.05) </blockquote>
How do you know that?
Also, the whole point of an "open" developer laptop is that you should be able to install whatever Linux distro you want on it.
By: Bogdanow
It will be cool to see unbiased review! How about setting up some fundraiser to cover costs of a review unit?
Even if personally I am more interested in a NUC alike form factor.
By: MJ
In reply to <a href="https://www.osnews.com/story/139948/canonical-and-deepcomputing-announce-new-risc-v-laptop-shipping-with-ubuntu/#comment-10440643">Adurbe</a>.
You were one that mentioned Ubuntu LTS and inferred this is a consumer device. I am just saying the former is not relevant and this is developer device. The OP didn't make much sense either when said Canonical was "selling" this which they are not. It's just a development device and Canonical wants Ubuntu to be seen at the forefront of the emerging RISC-V platform.
By: Adurbe
In reply to <a href="https://www.osnews.com/story/139948/canonical-and-deepcomputing-announce-new-risc-v-laptop-shipping-with-ubuntu/#comment-10440638">MJ</a>.
Again, that's not Canonical’s problem. You're projecting dissatisfaction of a hardware product on to the the software provider, that is more than doing it's part.
By: ppp
OK - I'm in. Shame the screen isn't a bit better (only HD? meh - Apple - you spoil me) but that geek port makes me tweaky. It'll be *very* interesting to see it benchmarked because RV5 is currently *WELL* behind the curve (Phoenix have some good numbers) and I expect most of this is due to platform immaturity. But I'd like this just to use as a Linux machine mostly for my toy synth and RPi experiments. TBH I'd really like RV5 to succeed - how much? I wrote my own emulator just to learn the CPU!