By: NaGERST
Come back to me when vlc ot webvideo can maximize video and minimize it again in wayland without lag on a 4k screen. This has beend done in X for years without problems. Regardless of compositor it has the same problem.
By: shiny
Theres a typo in the title - "Windowsing"
By: Book Squirrel
I happen to be on an nVidia card on my home desktop, so last I tried Sway (Wayland compositor replacement for i3) it didn't *quiiite* work as well as I'd hoped :P
But I hear the nVidia drivers have been catching up recently, so I'm going to give it a go again soon!
And no worries on the remote desktop front. Terminals are all I need for remote work! :D
By: Alfman
In reply to <a href="https://www.osnews.com/story/140149/david-rosenthal-on-the-x-windowsing-systems-40th-birthday/#comment-10441338">internetionals</a>.
internetionals,
<blockquote>On recent Raspian installs I’ve had no qualms with remote desktop using VNV:</blockquote>
Yes, I might be building another RPI soon enough and if so I'll take the opportunity to try it out.
It also sounds like the next version of KDE has made progress too, I'll test that (on my nvidia hardware) when it makes it's way down to my distros.
By: internetionals
In reply to <a href="https://www.osnews.com/story/140149/david-rosenthal-on-the-x-windowsing-systems-40th-birthday/#comment-10441336">Alfman</a>.
On recent Raspian installs I’ve had no qualms with remote desktop using VNV:
https://www.raspberrypi.com/documentation/computers/remote-access.html#vnc
While some things could be improved to get closer to the remote X experience, it is getting to a point that (for me) it’s acceptable.
By: Alfman
In reply to <a href="https://www.osnews.com/story/140149/david-rosenthal-on-the-x-windowsing-systems-40th-birthday/#comment-10441334">cpcf</a>.
cpcf,
<blockquote>As an aside, all the recent Wayland boosting prompted me to give it another go, I reserve an SBC and also a RaspberryPi 5 to test clean installs. Unfortunately Wayland still fails to deliver reliable remote desktop connection which for me is non-negotiable. FWIW, I actually found the desktop experience at the keyboard as good or better than ever before, performant, responsive, but if I can’t establish and maintain reliable remote connection it’s useless and I don’t have time to donate to an investigation.</blockquote>
I experienced the same on an RPI4. I'm not opposed to wayland, but as you say some things like remote desktop are non-negotiable. It's an automatic deal breaker if it doesn't work and I wish people would get this before judging us for continuing to use X windows. There would be much less friction if only wayland devs would have recognized our needs years ago! Anyway, I haven't tried wayland on RPI that recently, so maybe it will work next time I install. Honestly given that X just works for me, it's not hugely urgent for me personally to change. I will...but only after everything I need works and not just for the sake of running wayland!
By: cpcf
Great article, set the groundwork for so many. I worked on Sun systems quite a while back at New Ltd, for many many many years, and today I learn the connection between NeWs and X11. Back then as briefly mentioned Postscript was written by "Operators", I also had to do a bit of to do with that thankfully not anymore!
As an aside, all the recent Wayland boosting prompted me to give it another go, I reserve an SBC and also a RaspberryPi 5 to test clean installs. Unfortunately Wayland still fails to deliver reliable remote desktop connection which for me is non-negotiable. FWIW, I actually found the desktop experience at the keyboard as good or better than ever before, performant, responsive, but if I can't establish and maintain reliable remote connection it's useless and I don't have time to donate to an investigation.