The OpenSUSE team has released beta 9 of OpenSUSE 10.1. Again, no changelog, no release notes, nothing, so I cannot inform you about what is new, improved, or fixed. Download the CD set and see for yourself. Locations are listed in the announcement.
The OpenSUSE team has released beta 9 of OpenSUSE 10.1. Again, no changelog, no release notes, nothing, so I cannot inform you about what is new, improved, or fixed. Download the CD set and see for yourself. Locations are listed in the announcement.
Again, no changelog, no release notes, nothing, so I cannot inform you about what is new, improved, or fixed.
Im disappointed.
this was supposed to be the RC?
for Beta 1,000
As noted in the column by Paul Ferrill yesterday, Novell has made the “decision to use a common code base for all supported versions of the operating system.” Mr. Ferrill explains some of the reasons why this is a good idea.
What may not be noted in that column is the simple fact that with that decision came the inevitable difficulties involved in making certain that the desktop version, which is an openSUSE derivative, has the ability to run everything that the server version runs. Novell is hoping that the work involved will be a short-term investment that has long-term results.
If you weren’t aware, openSUSE 10.1 was actually fairly mature after the first few alphas, but because of the desire for a common code base, some things were changed that extended the testing period.
Regardless of the name, openSUSE 10.1 is actually only the second version to come out of the more open community process. I felt like FC2 was a nightmare to use compared to other distro’s at the time, but openSUSE 10.1 looks like it’s going to be quite solid in spite of changes made. Why do so many people feel the need to complain about a delay of one or two months. Its’ not like we’re going to have to wait until 2007 to see a finished product.
Awww, it was just a lil’ joke.
I agree w/ you that SuSE/Novell have an excellent product and I’m using 10.0 right now. The unified codebase is great because it means we’ll get things like Xgl that are going into NLD. But, don’t you think that nine public betas seems just a teensy bit excessive? Also, the other commenter is correct in that Novell really did promise that this release would be RC1, not Beta9.
Looks lke they added in ‘Beta 9’ before ‘RC1’, and extended the release schedule by about 10-14 days.
Running Beta 8 here, nice work, very impressive. Fast boot under 30 seconds on my machine, great integration as usual and the new ‘rug’ CLI package management is a welcomed addition.
<quote>Looks lke they added in ‘Beta 9’ before ‘RC1’, and extended the release schedule by about 10-14 days</quote>
True,
release date was sheduled at Apr the 12th.
Now it’s the date for RC1 and the 10.1 final is sheduled at April the 25th.
http://en.opensuse.org/Roadmap
what is your machine to get a boot under 30 seconde?
i get 55 second with beta 8 with a amd 3000+64bits with 1gig ram
^^^^^^^^^^what is your machine to get a boot under 30 seconde?
i get 55 second with beta 8 with a amd 3000+64bits with 1gig ram^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I doubt that machine is set with auto-login enabled. Both KDE and GNOME still take too long to get going.
30 seconds = login screen only.
no auto login enable
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Fast boot under 30 seconds on my machine^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Is that just to a login screen, or is that with a full desktop(KDE/GNOME) going?
Also, does that include BIOS time?
is this what you look for?
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/install/10.1/SUSE-Linux10.1-Beta9-Extr…
is this what you look for?
No. That is the changlog for the ‘extra’ repository, NOT for SUSE as a whole.
Let’s hope Novell learned a lesson after the failure of desktop Linux.
What failure? 2006 is the year for Linux on the desktop!!!
Oh man, now you’ve jinxed it and we’ll have to wait another year. Every year someone says, “year for linux on the desktop”, market share flat lines.
Like who?, most Linux users dont like the idea of it getting market share, it’s only new (we hate microsoft) users that entertain the idea really.
Atleast we have a upto date OS, not like WindowsXP is new techology is it and five years Vista has been coming.
I kid, I kid. Seems like every year is the year of desktop linux. We will win eventually but it will be a long creeping process rather than a sudden shift within any one year. More like decade of linux desktop.
I think we have already won. Linux cannot go away, (neither can the BSDs) and it is very usable for most day to day tasks. Everytime I boot my Linux or BSDs I am thankfull to all the people who contributed.
I think it’s just great that people are willing to invest their time/money and whatnot to make life a little better for others.
Easy there with the comments, last time I made a comment like this I got modded down.
Year 2000 was the year of the Linux desktop, but it failed.
SuSE is IMO a great distro. The reason I ditched it for Kubuntu was slowness of both the system and of YaST, nad the worthless package manager(part of YaST). It seems that they’ve switched to a new package manager, and hopefully it’ll be faster too. If my hopes are true, SuSE could take a fair share of the market. SuSE feels a lot more mature than Ubuntu in some regards(graphical configuration, ease of installing seperate packages, the installer).
“The reason I ditched it for Kubuntu was slowness of both the system and of YaST”
I am running beta 9 and it is *a lot* faster than, for instance, 9.3.
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“SuSE is IMO a great distro. The reason I ditched it for Kubuntu was slowness of both the system and of YaST, nad the worthless package manager(part of YaST)”
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Well, I agree, SuSe is a great distro, and is not quick. Yast is worst than Apt-get. I hope than the new changes in Yast ans rpms systems will improve and speed that…
…but, ditching it for Ubuntu, because Suse is not quick???
!!! Ubuntu is not quick neither !!!
Ubuntu has great things, although I prefer SuSe. Is more polished and nicer, with better hardware detection too…But, I’m not sure wich one is slower…
So, it’s your choice, of course, but is difficult to understand that anyone could switch from SuSe to Ubuntu looking for speedness!
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Interesting, from the change log, they have support for Intels ipw3945 driver version 1.0.0, which is the latest driver for all of Intels new A/B/G wireless chips. Perhaps now I’ll pick up a Sony Vaio SZ Ultraportable, becuase those things are sweet, and very Linux friendly. I’m surprised they’re actually bundling that driver considering the newness of the driver project, but this is great.
I’m not the bigest gnome fan, but, if I can get KDE set up like I want it, this release might be worth buying.
Edited 2006-03-31 17:30
“Like who?, most Linux users dont like the idea of it getting market share, it’s only new (we hate microsoft) users that entertain the idea really.”
i appreciate the truth of your statement, but Linux also needs to gain market share to attract the capital that allows companies like Novell to take up linux and return the goodies like XGL, openoffice enhancements and a million other benefits.
if people really are happy with linux remaining a geek clique then that is what it will remain, useless for mainstream user like me.
saying that, i am a longtime (since 9.1) suse user, and use 10.0 on my work laptop exclusively, it rocks.
still, while i’m all in favour of delays to 10.1 that make it better, how did they manage to update Gnome from 2.12 to 2.14 (a worthy addition i might add), and yet fail to migrate KDE from 3.5.1. to 3.5.2.?
and for that matter, it would be nice to have seen amarok 1.4 make the cut, and will XGL work out the box on Gnome AND kde?
but whatever, SUSE 10.1 is looking ace and i will use it.
still, while i’m all in favour of delays to 10.1 that make it better, how did they manage to update Gnome from 2.12 to 2.14 (a worthy addition i might add), and yet fail to migrate KDE from 3.5.1. to 3.5.2.?
I suspect beta 9 was all about Gnome 2.14. From what I had heard from inside Novell, 2.14 wasn’t going to make it this round. However, if they decided that they wanted 2.14 for SLES/SLED 10, then they would need to get it into SUSE 10.1 first. If there should happen to be a beta 10, maybe 3.5.2 will make it. If not, then you’ll have to update to it later.
on the irc channel, developper said suse 10.1 will not include kde 3.5.2…
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Agree
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I feel Novell should take a leaf from Ubuntu and start handing out free CDs of Open SuSE. They can always make money through charging for their service. This way they will generate more good will among the user community.
Else … there is always Ubuntu.
OpenSuse is like fedora. Beta material, handing out CD’s might turn people off since it may contain bugs and lack of features.
Have you ever even used it?
You, sir, are an idiot. Opensuse 10 happens to be the most stable operating system that I have ever used.
Since openSUSE is near identical to SUSE (and will be identical with the 10.1 release) we’re talking about a system that is commercially supported by Novell, which makes it different than Fedora.
As for Fedora, I think it’s pretty much in the same league as Ubuntu these days regarding stability. What I’d really call stable are Debian stable, RHEL, SLE{D,S}.
Pardon my ignorance but is this that version of the distro of which videos are floating around with all sorts of great integration of various desktop apps and fancy gui effects and eye candy and Beagle and so on? If so then hooah! Awesome!
That is a lot of betas!
Hope this will be an awesome distro!
it already is.
It has a beautiful Gnome implementation and it looks like Mac OS X from some points of view.
Does anyone know whether you can upgrade to the final release if you install a beta, or will you be required to reinstall it again?
“Does anyone know whether you can upgrade to the final release if you install a beta, or will you be required to reinstall it again?”
I wonder that too, someone knows?
You never had to reinstall Suse before. Why would you have to do it now? You used to be able to upgrade the installation with a new distro CD/DVD and I guess it’ll work the same way with the next release. No reason to change this.
http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/5956
Doesn’t sound like it’s ready for rc status yet, but I believe that they’ll get it sorted out, and they’ll get my $$ when they do.
I was very impressed with 10.0, and I suspect I will be just, if not more impressed with 10.1. Buying the boxed set is even easier to justify now since they’ve moved to an 8 month release cycle instead of 6.
Well worth the wait.
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I remember installing SuSe 6 or 7, I think, some years ago in one of my PCs.
I fell in love then, with this historic distro, and Since 9.2 I am falling in love again…
I am considering using it as my main desktop PC…
Only one think, is not as quick as I would like it to be… I have heard of SUPER (which is apparently an OpenSuSe based distro), seemingly quicker, but I have not found it!
Anyone has info of SUPER, or any other SuSe variation or distro, quicker than the offical SuSe???
Has anyone installed this related distros, and/or know how to make them quicker???
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depends. they broke upgrading from one to another beta once, this release (if i recall this right, it was betwee beta 5 and 6). so you can’t be sure. suse 10.0 should cleanly upgrade to 10.1, but no promises are made for any beta…
super seems to be sleeping, but suse 10.0 and 10.1 are both considerably faster than the previous releases.