“This site intends to stimulate interest in coding for the Haiku OS by offering financial compensation to software developers once they have completed one of our code bounties.” Donate away, boys and girls.
“This site intends to stimulate interest in coding for the Haiku OS by offering financial compensation to software developers once they have completed one of our code bounties.” Donate away, boys and girls.
Is this site endorsed or supported by the Haiku project? Not even knowing who is actually getting the donations, I would be very reluctant to send in any money.
To succeed, this should be done by the Haiku project itself, not by an unknown third party.
If you go to haikubounties.org and click the Haiku logo, it sends you to the haiku-os.org page (or at least a mirror of it). This is a little strange because the URL stays ‘haikubounties.org’ – but to me, this seems to be at the consent of the Haiku group.
At least there’s a new way to support it, other than buying a copy of Zeta and hoping they’ll share resources with Haiku. I’ve always liked the idea of bounties because it lets programmers get directly paid for their work, versus buying a product and hoping somebody gets their salary.
I think that bouties are cool things to haiku suceed
haikubounties.org have a nice pourpoise
let’s give some credit or have you better idea?
I developed and run Haikubounties.
Yes I am a third party, although I am not unknown to M. Phipps, Axel, or many in the community.
I contacted Haiku over 6 weeks ago about the idea, and had the website all ready to go but wanted the opinion and direction of Haiku itself for the site.
I was speaking with Axel in particular, and he present the idea to M. Phipps. I got an email today from Axel saying that he never did hear back from M. Phipps about it, and said he could understand why 6 weeks later I went ahead with promoting the site.
So oficially it’s not endorsed, but that is something I will try to get Haiku to say/approve.
So far, it’s received many positive comments (and some donations), and said by many it’s something Haiku needs.
I’m not here to steal people’s money, as with my two contributions to the two bounties and a private doonation I made last year, this will bring my contributions to Haiku to $1200.
This is something Haiku needs, and needs now. We don’t want to keep waiting!
This model works in many cases. Look at onmac.net… I didn’t really know whom I was sending my money to, but I had to trust. In some cases that’s all you can do.
Oh, about the url staying haikubounties.org when you click the haiku-os.org link…I’m using frame forwarding, as I have the domain forwarded to space on my server. Sometimes the frames stick when you click on external links. Sorry for the confusion.
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This is really great work, it’s wonderful when 3rd parties take the initiative.
My only suggestion would be to make the finances and accounting as visible and public as possible. A small reward to contributors may be to optionally post their personal/contact information if they desire – so they can share their ‘warm and fuzzy feeling’ with the rest of the community.
This is a great idea. I’m all for anything that will help boost the production of haiku. I don’t like the idea of using paypal tho due to an issue I had with them a few years ago. While I can’t donate $1200, I think I can donate a little something towards the cause. Lets hope there are more projects that get entered on that site.
How do i make the accounting more visible? I suppose I could print a pdf of the account and post it, but I have to take people’s privacy into consideration…
It does say if you want your fullname posted I will do that, or an alias, otherwise your first name gets posted…
Exactly, you’ve got the idea. Maybe allowing the donator a small bloglet (under 256 chars or so) describing what they believe they are contributing to (task-wise). Of course you shouldn’t post anything confidential – just allow the person to confirm what they do or don’t want announced. Regardless, you’re doing a bang-up job.
As far as dontating directly to Haiku, I’m sure they’re busy doing actual development rather than the whole ‘business management’ end of the project (at least, I hope) which would be the most likely reason you haven’t gotten much of a response. Programmers program, managers manage. As an outside project, this offloads the daily grunt-work of accounting and report filing away from the coders. It’s a bit strange, but so is the BeOS community.
I think I’d rather donate directly to Haiku, Inc. I want Michael Phipps to be free to use whatever assets are available in the most flexible way, be it to keep the website hosted, employing someone temporarily or getting legal counsel. That said, I think bounties can be a nice motivation, so I welcome HaikuBounties.org.
Hi Jonas,
Sure you can do whatever you feel, I just think that the bounties target a specific part of the os that needs to be completed… Clearly, from the donations, a lot of people want to see a solid networking kit in Haiku.
Btw, i’ve put a copy of the paypal donations thus far up on the server, so everyone can see what’s going on. i’ll update that frequently. it’s on the bounty balance page.
At the rate donations are going… we are going to have a Haiku Network stack very soon
Well the website has only been up for 2 days or so. I’ve added $100 to the USB stack. A few more days of this, and we’ll have enough to entice developers with time to do the work (for cash).
Generally I do like the idea for code bounties to further specific development. OTOH I don’t feel comfortable sending money to an anonymous person. Giving your real name and address would really help I think.
What do you think about putting up a big button with a link to Haiku’s donation page ( http://haiku-os.org/contribute.php?mode=donate ) for those who feel the same?
In any way, it’s good to see someone cares about donations for Haiku. I feel that the Haiku guys themselves do quite a good job hiding the possibility to do so…
Maybe you should apply to be the official donations manager and bring that department up to speed from within the organisation.
I agree that making a ‘donations’ link would be a good gesture. However, one of the issues with blind donations is that you don’t really have any say in what the money is actually going to support. With bounties, cash can be directed at specific issues rather than a general account. This also motivates developers outside of the Haiku organization to contribute project code. There may be some Linux/BSD geeks out there with skills to contribute whom would rather remain ouside of the official development teams, all that really matters is the code.
I didn’t think my name and address are important, but they are available on my website if anyone cares for that. http://www.karlvd.com
I will put a link to Haiku’s donate page.
With regards to the donators blogging, i’ll have to look into that, I’m not very good with web design.
thnx
Thank you, Karl. Knowing your identity and general whereabouts is very much necessary when there’s money involved, especially as it may turn into a multi-year relationsship between you and the community, if we’re not so lucky with developer participation.
I understand.
Karl