Submitted by The SkyOS team has released build 6179 of SkyOS. Highlights: “Mono 1.1.13.8 and updated MWF (System.Windows.Forms) port; embedded Gecko widget; remote command interface for applications; binary image caching; inital DDK [ed. note: trust me, Robert’s making a lot of people happy with this one).” This new build also includes new ports, such as Quake III, Python, SDL with OpenGL support, and much more. You can find details in the changelog.
Will SkyOS ever be released?
I didn’t see any esimated release date, and there has been news about the OS for years..
Will SkyOS ever be released?
If you go to…
http://www.skyos.org/?q=node/408
When will SkyOS 5.0 final be released?
There is not a set date yet. We are currently aiming to release SkyOS 5.0 sometime between Q3 and Q4 of 2006, though this is not set in stone.
I think that text was written quite some time ago. I doubt it will be released in 2006
Thanks.. I must be blind |o)
Just a side note about Quake III…
It is not included in the build yet but will be released in the softwarestore. One reason is that the full game cannot be distributed, only the binary without the gamedata.
Even though SkyOS lacks 3D drivers, Robert said it was playable on an AMD 3400+ at 320×240 resolution
I’m really starting to doubt if this project will end up being succesful. If a developer starts working on OpenGL support and things like that, without the essential things like USB-support and stuff like that being implementend, I really think that they are missing the point of developping an OS people need to pay for. I paid 26 euro’s once in the hope of having a lightweigth OS for my antique laptop. I hope everyone agrees with me that USB is more important than QuakeIII @ 320×240…
So Robert, please focus on USB, printing, scanning, and other things people will expect to work out-of-the-box. I’m starting to lose my faith in you
Agreed that there’s a whole bunch of important stuff here, USB being definitely one of them.
However, judging from SkyOS extreme development pace (because in my pov it is improving at an amazing rate) I think things are being done in parallell.
I’m not even sure what SkyOS aim is at the moment, making it even harder to have any idea what is most important at the moment.
However, being a bit supportive (not a user of SkyOS), if OpenGL works right and he can use it to make the desktops graphics blazingly fast, am I wrong to assume that will draw a lot of attention? A lot more than say USB support? I’d assume that’s the plan here and then take one step at the time.
At last, knowing that SkyOS and Haiku has shared stuff before (FS comes to mind), would it be stupid to believe that part of these items might be shared again, such as Printing or USB?
also, it’s roberts OS. H ecan work on the parts he wants when he wants
Have patience, he will eventually get it all.
The problem with the idea that it’s only Robert’s OS is that if he doesn’t focus on users bugs, bugs will stop getting reported. If that happens, by the time the OS has gotten where he wants it to go, it’ll work 100% for only one user: Robert
If he’s fine with that, then there’s no problem taking the attitude that he can work on just the parts he wants, when he wants.
Adam
The problem with the idea that it’s only Robert’s OS is that if he doesn’t focus on users bugs, bugs will stop getting reported.
To be fair, he has fixed many, many reported bugs as well.
However, being a bit supportive (not a user of SkyOS), if OpenGL works right and he can use it to make the desktops graphics blazingly fast, am I wrong to assume that will draw a lot of attention?
Except that it’s software OpenGL only that’s working. There is no hardware acceleration.
Adam
“I paid 26 euro’s once in the hope of having a lightweigth OS for my antique laptop”
Don’t want to start a flame war, but there are quite a few linux distros out there which will run on older hardware, are very nice and cost absolutely nothing.
Seems like I am having trouble getting http://www.skyos.org to load here. Got through once and downloaded the iso only to get a crc error saying the download was broken. Any updates?
My mouse and keyboard are both USB. Need I say more? Still OpenGL and desktop composition is very important, and if SkyOS can reuse Haikus USB-stack later then I would also focus on OpenGL atm.
My mouse and keyboard are both USB.
Check your BIOS if usb->ps/2 emulation is enabled. If yes, everything will work just fine (I know from experience).
Still OpenGL and desktop composition is very important, and if SkyOS can reuse Haikus USB-stack later then I would also focus on OpenGL atm.
If he were working on hardware accelerated OpenGL, I might agree with you. But there’s no indication that this is the case.
Every time there’s a news concerning SKYOS the site never open..
Can they’re for one and for all fix the website??
Grrrrrrrrrrrr
Perhaps if you donated instead of blindy complaining, you’d be able to help them with the bandwidth cost of being linked to by OSAlert.com and it’s unappreciative users
how can i donate to a project that i don’t know the direction? and also that it’s lead for just one person.
Course Roberts its an amazing programing, but whats will happens if tomorrow when he wake up he just decide he don’t wanna continue??
when a new beta release is out, the server is under very heavy load, which it should be able to handle.
Since the new version of the site, the drupal cms is being used and drupal seems to have have trouble generating pages under heavy traffic, making the site unavailable…
Actually several versions of SkyOS worked fine on my machine.
But the last beta (the one before this) crashed on me
IMO people are too focused on let the OS run on VM’s instead of real hardware.
Thats sad.
Hope this beta is doing better.
Have you tested this beta? Did you report your problem on the bugtracker?
I’m running this build without any trouble on my native installation.
Haiku has been in development for… what… *5* years, I think? And we’ve got SOME hardware accelerated 3D (nVidia cards). SkyOS has been in development since BEFORE Haiku was even a dream (6 yrs.+) and he STILL doesn’t have ANY hardware accelerated 3D? Sad.
He may be a one-man coding army, but I am starting to think people are slowly beginning to lose their enthusiasm in his work. After awhile, people want an OS THEY can use, not just an OS HE is working on.
In the end, I say we’ll have Haiku R1 before SkyOS is a fully usable/game-capable OS.
You make it seem like 3D drivers are the one and only thing an OS needs. That’s true if you want to support games.
An os can be perfectly useable without it, though it’s always nice if you can accelerate one and other.
good point, though even more so than you might think.
for instance I’m running linux on this G4 powermac using an nvidia geforce 4. there is no open source (or even closed source) driver capable of accelerated 3D for this card on a ppc system.
before really running it I would have thought 3D more pervasive than it is. now however, I see that what’s actually important is to have accelerated _2D_ support. playing most (free) games, doing the regular desktop foo, watching DVDs, looking at most of the nifty (x)screensavers, all this is largely 2D stuff. 3D is really only in a small minority of apps out there, at least in Linux land (and I’d guess most of the alternative OSes like SkyOS)
and he STILL doesn’t have ANY hardware accelerated 3D? Sad
You seem to be under the impression it’s easy to get 3D hardware acceleration. Perhaps you’d like to point all the ‘clueless’ OS developpers towards ATI and Nvidia’s freely available driver specifications?
What Haiku has achieved in hardware acceleration is mostly owed to one extremely talented expert named Rudolf Cornelissen who did some creative hacking.
To my knowledge, Robert has programmed SkyOS 100% solo. So, one wonders why he hasn’t been able to manage hardware accelerated 3D as well, even to the degree that Haiku has, which has been/required a team effort since day one.
It’s obvious that Robert is the SkyOS equivilent of Haiku’s Axel Dorfler. Except he’s managed to code an entire OS from the ground up!
Surely *some* amount of hardware accelerated 3D at this stage is within his grasp…
The problem, as I see it, is that keep on working on new things instead of finishing what they already implemented… Seems to me they need to define some path, and stick to it…
As a matter of fact, Robert once mentioned that he has the ati and nvidia specifications on his desk for his dayjob. He is just not allowed to use these specifications for his os.
The cross compiler was notably absent on recent builds. Even running native, the system isn’t the most friendly of speed demons for development purposes. I didn’t see any mention of this in the changelog….I don’t suppose it’s been included this time around either?
SkyOS would be great except that Linux already does way more, is stable, and quite a few distributions run on the same hardware requirement. The SkyOS site says that a 500mhz computer cannot run the gui comfortably and that you need about 300mb ram ( granted that debugging is enabled ). Well I’m not much of an Ubuntu fan but it runs pretty well on machines that are less hardware capable. Plus there is the thing about Ubuntu being free and SkyOS … not really free …
But I’m sure that all this is a great learning experience for Robert + supporters.