“Linux, the cash-saving open source option to costly proprietary operating system (OS) such as Microsoft’s Windows operating system, is now seen to be gaining ground in the desktop market in India. Thus far, Linux has been a dominant force only in the worldwide server market and has grabbed impressive market share from Microsoft and Sun Microsystems.” Read more at
Business Standard.
While I don’t forsee the demise of Microsoft from open source software, I do believe that a sizable chunk of the market will be won over. Microsoft cannot stop the flow of open source, because they cannot control or bully open source developers. Its a different ballgame when you take profit motives out of the equation, and MS can’t and never will compete with that/
In India you can grab a copy of Windows off the street for a buck to two, piracy is pretty high there; so I’m surprised at seeing Linux being described as a cash-saving option. I understand in government/businesses where things are more legit but in the personal desktop market I don’t see the savings.
Maybe they just don’t like being called a thief.
Yea, its right. In india, piracy is so high that nobody needs linux here
. But ofcourse, linux is gaining imp. In our insti, almost 90% of the comps have linux+windows on them. They depend upon the windows bcoz of internet experience, yahoo messenger and office. So, if linux can provide this, ppl leave windows bcoz its unstable even xp also.
if linux can provide this, ppl leave windows bcoz its unstable even xp also.
And Linux is too hard to use because you have to compile everything you want to install
Comments like yours should be moderated down.
“And Linux is too hard to use because you have to compile everything you want to install
”
Where did you hear this???
And if Palladium delivers, Windows will be only OEM – at least for a while – , so there’ll be no more Windows in India, ’cause it simply is way too expensive…
“In India you can grab a copy of Windows off the street for a buck to two, piracy is pretty high there;”
I can get Windows off the street in Toronto for a buck or two, I suspect this true anywhere.
>> Maybe they just don’t like being called a thief.
Yes. Exactly that. I agree 100%.
You can get Windows for just 1 or 2 bucks.
Or… Linux for zero bucks and no guilt/ no sin / improved karma — choose according your (lack of) religion.
It’s like sex — infinitely better when not involving money.
Feed the trolls.
It’s like sex — infinitely better when not involving money.
Are you speaking from experience ?
People, Darius’ comment was intended sarcastic because it was a reply on something that isn’t true either. Xp is easily stable enough, for a desktop, on A-brand hardware.
‘if linux can provide this, ppl leave windows bcoz its unstable even xp also.’
I’ve heard that supporting new language dialects (of which there are literally thousands in India) is much easier with Linux because you don’t have to wait for commercial support to fit your niche market. So if one person does the necessary translations, then everyone can use it free of charge.
When and who sold India the secret to electricity? People, we need to guard information like that!
LoL – A third world nation using a 3rd class OS. How fitting !
People, Darius’ comment was intended sarcastic because it was a reply on something that isn’t true either.
Percisely, though I should’ve made it more clear – if bullshit is going to fly, I want to make sure it’s going in both directions.
I would think that a big driving factor for people to use Linux, in India or otherwise, is that it is not Windows and it is not Microsoft. I don’t mean that as a troll, I believe it is very true.
..When and who sold India the secret to electricity? People, we need to guard information like that!
You must be pretty stupid. India is the country with most programmers in the world
If you ever got your hands on OS/2 you’d louse it up too
“India is the country with most programmers in the world”
They also have the biggest film industry but that doesnt mean thier films are any good
Good luck to them using Linux. I guess the honest people there dont want to spend big bucks on Windows licenses. The dishonest people can just do what they like:)
Linux is great as a cheap server OS. Im still not convinced about its usefullness on the desktop. Ive had too much trouble trying to use it as a desktop OS (niggling hardware incompatibilities,software installation problems)
“When and who sold India the secret to electricity? People, we need to guard information like that!”
Yeah, the US Patent Office came around claiming that the electricity patent was owned by Amazon’s Jeff Bozo. So here’s what the free world decided to do.
Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, & Allah – take care of WTC, USS Cole
France, Germany – help stop a stupid war
Russia – sell more stuff to Iran
North Korea – give the world shivers with a missile or two
China – $50 billion trade imbalance at scumerican expense
Japan – play dead
India – steal the electricity, and program more Linux stuff
Scumerica – your pride is going to be your fall.
Q: Why is Scumerica in a fvcked state ?
A: Cos its ruled by a Dick and a Bush.
Oh did I hear that 2000 more Oracle jobs are moving to India ? he he he. Good bye pink-slip John Galt… good bye cruel world.
Guess who’s having the last laugh ? India!!! ha ha ha ha.
so u think that everything from the west is good,u guys always say that usa this, usa that come on u either make predictable movies or some crap using computer graphics coz most of your actors can’t act.if foreign movies are to even be nominated for oscars they have to produce some kind of heavily dramatized ,documentary or historical films, but their holywood couterparts can get an oscar by just making crap.if u guys a so good why do u need foreign manpower, why do u need nigt syamalan.u guys have no clue about whats happening outside of ur country,always rely on the government for the latest update. even ur cars are years outdated compared to european or korean/japs.so think about it before u insult others.
sorry to be out of topic but these kind of idiots who look down on other nations just piss me off.(u think the usa was always no 1..when the europeans were still living in caves..before rome the asians have had large empires and lived in large palaces so history might repeat itself since history does go in circles)
As far as ive seen all Indian movies involve a guy and a girl dancing around on a hilltop whom arent allowed to kiss or even touch each other.
Much more interesting than Star Wars or Terminator or Titanic.
Here in Australia our cars are advanced enough for us. Our locally built cars rival anything the europeans can produce and dont require you to take out a second mortage to buy one.
Sorry about the off topic post. Just trying to straighten an Indian:P
Its sheer stupid to compare movies with os. Movies are for entertainment and some or most of them reflect culture too. OS is at intellectual level or its in normal life. U cant mix up both. Who the f** cares, if your hero make love to heroine or not. Every body cares if a system comes down on a new OS or already (in)famous on its very day of launching. (remember win98). So, dont compare movies with OS
Second thing, regarding electricity, this is the same person who gave boeing to US. :-D. I think NY city had a nice experience with them. So, do u think planes should be banned in US ?? I see if your bush and dick rules ur US, it will happen soon. You r scared to death man !! dont pass slur comments if you cant win in intellectual debates.
Its true that india is a reckonable force in IT and everybody accepts it. Here and there, bush, dick and you may not accept it. But truth always prevails. India is a power in IT. Sure, we have problems in our country. So, r u . Atleast, we are not shit scared like you just bcoz some people fooled you
If this is some sort of intellectual debate I’m gonna have to argue that all countries have the best IT staff they could ask for. With millions of people to choose from, sometimes billions, a few of them would have to know Linux. Put them in charge.
and I wouldn’t steal them especially if I had the chance to support local filmakers instead.
Maybe that’s why *they* don’t want to steal an American OS and would rather make Linux into whatever they need.
You shouldn’t underestimate cultural differences.
India may wish to become the preeminent software producing country. They have several advantages, excellent technical education, relatively low wages and high English language skills.
Why would a software company hire an inexperienced CompSci graduate in the US when they can get a highly experiencedand more qualified programmer in India for less money.
Windows benefits the USA primarily, Open Source benefits the country where it is used.
There is no reason why India, China, Bulgaria etc cannot totally dominate software to the exclusion of western nations. Very little consumer electronics or computer hardware is now manufactured in high wage countries. Within a few years most software may be written in low wage countries.
Hardware costs are plummeting allowing millions more people access. Eventually computers will be so cheap as to be essentially disposable (say UD$50). No one will be willing to pay hundreds of dollars for software to run on a $50 machine.
If I was a western programmer I would be very, very concerned. The barriers to entry for many IT jobs are trivial. There are no teenage surgeons, lawyers or fighter pilots but plenty of 15yo kids can assemble a computer or write decent software. When tens millions of people have a skill it has very little market value.
I remember watching an episode of ‘My Three Sons’ where the father(an aeronautical engineer) made a miscalculation and blamed his ‘cheap Japanese sliderule’ (insert canned laughter). I suppose the same joke now would be ‘crappy opensource software’. The real joke is in 20 years time the US software industry maybe as moribund as the US steel industry and as reliant on subsidies as the hopelessly inefficient US agriculture sector. Maybe they will be making the same sort of jokes about Redmond and Cupertino as they used to about Gary, Indiana.
India is quickly becoming the dominent in technology.
Support of local technology in emerging markets such as India and china will be an important part of success.
That said, apple and MS will need to provide true incentives to both users and the local economy if they intend to fight off open source. Moreover, low cost is more of an issue in developing areas, particularly for the legit interests.
China is particularly interesting. They have already told the cell phone industry to buzz off by developing TD-SCDMA (time division synchronous CDMA).
linux in the developing world is going to make some inroads. Guaranteed. I hope apple has something to counter this.
“Just trying to straighten an Indian:P”. yeah right, like God has given you “Right” to straighten out others. Let me straighten you out, mr. colonial-attitude aussie.
I suggest that you first get your country into shape. Stop the racism against Aborginals.
Next get your OWN head of state. Not the Queen of England. Please!!! I mean can’t you guys swear allegiance to your own people instead of a foreign monarch.
Hey maybe Indian films are bad, but at least our Head of State is an Indian. Not like you morons, worshipping an English monarchy which made Australia into a penal colony.. do i need to remind you of the “Great Stain” that lies behind every australian family history.
so much for straightening out. man i had fun, maybe we should do this more often. and next time stick to linux.
Linux is Free, Electricity is cheap, now lets Free Tibet! oh yeah!!
Yeah right, like God has given you “Right” to straighten out others. Let me straighten you out, mr. colonial-attitude aussie.
Interesting. This must be the first time in my life I have met anyone with the god-given right to straighten somebody out. All hail to CitizenKane’s deity-authorized and approved “straightening out” of an Australian!
I suggest that you first get your country into shape. Stop the racism against Aborginals.
You tell ’em lefty!
Next get your OWN head of state. Not the Queen of England. Please!!! I mean can’t you guys swear allegiance to your own people instead of a foreign monarch.
Amen and halleluiah!
Hey maybe Indian films are bad
No question about it!
but at least our Head of State is an Indian.
And I’m sure he’s a much better Indian than the Queen of England.
Not like you morons, worshipping an English monarchy which made Australia into a penal colony.. do i need to remind you of the “Great Stain” that lies behind every australian family history.
Yes, please.
so much for straightening out.
Yeah, I didn’t think you did a very good job either.
man i had fun, maybe we should do this more often.
It doesn’t take much to entertain the senseless does it.
Linux is Free, Electricity is cheap, now lets Free Tibet! oh yeah!!
And while we are at it, let’s shave the whales, french tongue a tree, get randy in the rainforest, jade an SUV, make love to the oceans, hug a reef… Hooray for the almighty CitizenKane for showing us the way!
Interesting that you deleted the disparaging comment made by Mr. Ed that started this whole thing off.
that was the FIRST time you met someone (Mr Ed – an aussie) who wanted to “straighten out an Indian” – in his own words.
My response was the SECOND time you met someone who was “straightening out” someone else (Mr. Ed).
But then again, I guess English is not your first language.
Also, I am not sure how happy Altiris would be to note that you are mailing rascist remarks from this commerical domain. Makes them liable for your comments. Free Speech does not apply at work places as strongly – in case you didn’t know that.
Get your own domain, get a life. me, i gotta get back to work.
Citizen Kane should get his facts right
“I suggest that you first get your country into shape. Stop the racism against Aborginals.”
Fact: Australian Aborigines have access to services not available to other Australians such as education grants, specialist aboriginal legal services etc. If you ever visit Australia you may meet blue-eyed blonde aborigines. I would suggest that Aborigines are far better integrated into society than Native Americans. We have an aboriginal Federal senator (married to a white woman). I agree that we have a lot of progress to be made but it is not government policy to marginalise aborigines.
“Next get your OWN head of state. Not the Queen of England. Please!!! I mean can’t you guys swear allegiance to your own people instead of a foreign monarch.”
Fact: Our actual Head of State is the Governor General (just like Canada). The Queen is obliged to accept the advice of the Prime Minister. I might add in the Australian system the Prime Minister has far more power than the US President as the PM also controls the House and Senate. Australian parlimentarians vote as directed by their leader.
“Not like you morons, worshipping an English monarchy which made Australia into a penal colony.. do i need to remind you of the “Great Stain” that lies behind every australian family history.”
Fact: The American colinies were penal colony long before Australia. It was only after the French helped you defeat Britain that convicts were sent to Australia.
I think I would be far more worried about the stain of slavery, systematic extermination of Native Americans and invasion of neighbours than the stain of convicts.
One of my school classmates went to California as a high school exchange student from Australia. He won the American History prize and played on the football team despite having no prior experience of either. What made it ironic is that he was a very average student and only a moderately good Australian Rules footballer back home.
Illegitimate copies are hardly in the survey, so for legitimate users, Linux is indeed a cash saving option. These legitimate usage is not only in the government, but education institutes, religious institutes (e.g. the South Indian Church thinks piracy is stealing), as well as multi-national companies.
Interesting that you deleted the disparaging comment made by Mr. Ed that started this whole thing off.
I read his post and I read ram’s post as well. Nothing in either to comment on really. Well, other than I have lived in India and Indian movies are pretty dumb. However, Indian programmers are very good. The food’s great too.
that was the FIRST time you met someone (Mr Ed – an aussie) who wanted to “straighten out an Indian” – in his own words.
However, he did not claim to be authorized by deity to do so. You suggested, on the other hand that you had. Therefore, you are the first.
My response was the SECOND time you met someone who was “straightening out” someone else (Mr. Ed).
I did NOT say that it was the first time I met someone who was “straightening out” someone else, but rather that it was the first time I had met someone authorized by diety to do so. Let’s look at what you said again shall we?
Yeah right, like God has given you “Right” to straighten out others. Let me straighten you out, mr. colonial-attitude aussie.
So what you are saying is that you belong to a special group of straighteners authorized by deity and placed on Earth to give others rigorous tongue lashings; and you know for a fact that Mr. Ed does not belong to that special club of approved intelligentsia. That is why I’m making fun of you you hypocrite. Everyone has the right to speak their mind in any way they feel comfortable; which is why I’m doing so now.
But then again, I guess English is not your first language.
I guess English IS your first language, but you haven’t learned to stop incessantly spewing it long enough to grasp what others are saying to you and around you. I am a polyglot, but English is my native tongue.
Also, I am not sure how happy Altiris would be to note that you are mailing rascist remarks from this commerical domain.
Exactly what about any of my remarks are racist? If you are offended because I’m making fun of someone who is a mental giant nowhere but in their own mind, why don’t you call them and whine like a pig about it? I’m sure they couldn’t care less.
Makes them liable for your comments. Free Speech does not apply at work places as strongly – in case you didn’t know that.
In case you can’t tell, your opinions are not something that I value or respect.
Get your own domain, get a life. me, i gotta get back to work.
I’m glad to see that your mastery of the English language includes such a strong vocabulary, augmented with awe-inspiring fortitude and a rapier-like wit. Your personal insults are truly devastating in their surgical execution; precisely tuned and timed for maximum impact as you seek to crush your oponent’s mortal soul.
Well, either that or you just peed yourself and that last sentence was all you could come up with before racing off to the shower.
Keep reaching for that rainbow nervey.
Actually CitizenKane is right….
All us Aussies worship the Queen every morning when we get up just b4 we have our wheat bix,jump on our Kangaroo and go off to wrestle a crocodile or 2 in our true blue fair dinkum aussie way.
Then we get home,throw another shrimp on the barbie and sing “Waltzing Matilda” while cuddling our pet Koala.
What’s wrong with the Australians having an English queen? If they haven’t got one of their own, she’s as good as any other queen.
Now, Indians, where’s your queen? If you haven’t even got a queen, you’re hardly at any liberty to dismiss other peoples’ queens.