Lineo, current holder of the CP/M and DR-DOS intellectual property, decided to open source the two operating systems. CP/M is a legendary operating system of the ’70s and ’80s, while DR-DOS is a clone of MS-DOS, used by Novell and Caldera at the end of the ’80s and in the beginning of the ’90s. Get more information at the full story at NewsForge. Update: DR-DOS’ source code is only available for a fee.
CP/M and DR-DOS Open Sourced
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>>while DR-DOS is a clone of MS-DOS
DR-DOS was an evolution of CP/M. MS-DOS which was 86-DOS from that seattle company, was a clone of CP/M cause the creator was tired of waiting for Digital to make an 8086 port of CP/M…..ssoooooooo…..MS-DOS is actualt a clone of CP/M and therefor a Clone of DR-DOS
Human beings and apes have common ancestors, are we thus related to apes?
Microsof did not even “inovate” in their first OS
So, only 30 year left before having BeOS open (this is a worst case scenario).
PS: (picture yourself Bill say innovate 3 time in the same phrase, is that irritating or what).
has there ever been a windowing system for cp/m?
>Human beings and apes have common ancestors, are we thus related to apes?
This is not proven. There is that ‘missing link’ you see.
If it is true though, then yes, we do relate to apes.
..you’re right.
The question should go: Are we thus descendants of apes?
>Are we thus descendants of apes?
No, because if the hypothesis that apes and humans have common ancestors is correct, we are then both descendats of the same lifeform, which was neither ape or human. Back then, there should not be apes, because if they were apes and today are STILL apes, it means that the above hypothesis is incorrect. It is illogical to assume that humans have evolved while apes have not, while we both live on the same environment in Earth.
So this means that either the evolution theory is wrong, or simply, our descendants were neither apes or humans, but another kind of lifeform.
GEM was available for CP/M for the 8080/z80 only. Unfortunately, no-one ported GEM to CP/M-86.
DRDOS is still not open-source, just CP/M
wonder what kind of knock-on effect this will have on freedos…?
C4[1] had a very good documentry about this a couple of days back…
[1] Channel Four, UK TV channel.
<It is illogical to assume that Humans have evolved and Apes have not
<p>Errr… It’s a complicated topic, but that statement is a bit misleading. Evolution tends to make species fill a niche better. So Apes have evolved, but to fill their ecological niche – swinging from trees, eating bananas, whatever – much better, whereas humans have evolved as bipedal hunter-gatherers. So, I guess, while our descendants were still basically Apes, one branch evolved into yet more efficient tree-climbing herbivores, and another into bipedal carnivores. Bloody hell evolution is confusing. But the point is – evolution does not mean progress in our assumed sense. It means adaptation.
Whoops, I expect Eugenia means that our descendants were not apes exactly as we know them now but as apes were many millions of years ago. So basically she’s saying the same as me.
Sorry.
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Anyway. There’s a great Plato/Darwin quote for all this.
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Plato: Humanity’s necessary ideas of good & evil arise from the pre-existance of the soul and are not derivable from experience.
Darwin: Read Monkeys for pre-existance of the soul.
>No, because if the hypothesis that apes and humans have common
>ancestors is correct, we are then both descendats of the same
>lifeform, which was neither ape or human. Back then, there should
>not be apes, because if they were apes and today are STILL apes, it
>means that the above hypothesis is incorrect. It is illogical to
>assume that humans have evolved while apes have not, while we both
>live on the same environment in Earth. So this means that either
>the evolution theory is wrong, or simply, our descendants were
>neither apes or humans, but another kind of lifeform.
The mistake you’re making is mixing up the name of a entire family of species (apes) and one for one member of this family, human beings.
>The mistake you’re making is mixing up the name of a entire family of species (apes) and one for one member of this family, human beings.
The mistake you’re making is that you assume that a human being is part of the ape family.
Open Sourcing of these OS’s is no big deal. Who gives a rat’s ass about *DOS these days anyway? With all these *nix’s around anyways.
Fossil evidence suggests first apes evolved from primitive primates about 30 million years ago.
By 10 million years ago at least 10 species had evolved living across Europe, Asia and Africa.
Of these the Dryopithecus a chimp sized tree living ape is seen as the most likely common ancestor of Humans, Gorilla and Chimps.
> wonder what kind of knock-on effect this will have on freedos…?
It will have no effect. The source of PTS-DOS is avaiable since a long time and AFAIK it had also no effect on FreeDOS.
We are Homo Sapiens, to be precise the ONLY extant species of the genus Homo, all other species were probably wiped out with our lust for War. Monkeys (Tails) and Apes (No tail) are an entirely different species. Chimpanzees are our closet relatives being only genetically different from Humans by 2%. The entire Human population differs genetically by > 1%. All this was proven when we mapped the entire Human Genome. Anyway we probably ALL evolved from the same goo which would probably explain the people in power!!!!
>>Chewy509 wrote on 2001-11-27 22:56:59 Re: Just curious
>>GEM was available for CP/M for the 8080/z80 only. >>Unfortunately, no-one ported GEM to CP/M-86.
Funnny you should mention that…Gem has also been open
sourced, a distro of “FreeGem” can be downloaded from
Owen Rudge’s page at: http://www.orudge.uklinux.net/GEM/downfile.php?FN=FGDist12.zip
Of course I’d recommend paying his page a visit instead just
using the direct d/l link above to see what bug fixes there are
and to check out the extra drivers and documentation…
1) Humans and Apes share the same ancestor. We are not descended from apes and apes are not descended from us.
2) GEM is also available on the Atari ST/STe/TT/Falcon
GEM was never available for 8-bit CP/M. It was available on CP/M-68K, the obscure 68000 version of CP/M (which was the core of Atari’s TOS), and of course for DR-DOS and MS-DOS. I thought it had initially been made for CP/M-86, too, though.
Great website about human evolution: http://www.becominghuman.org/