MacNN reports that Mozilla.org has released Mozilla 1.5.1 for Macs, an update to the open-source browser. New features include a spellchecker for MailNews and Composer, additional MailNews improvements, improvements to Mozilla Composer, an overhaul of the ChatZilla IRC client, improvements to tabbed browsing, and other enhancements. Anyone knows the status of the Mozilla Calendar development, as last big update was last May? (screenshot)
Mozilla.org Releases Mozilla 1.5.1 Browser for Mac
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September 26, 2003 -> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/
I’ve been using Mozilla for the past two months, and I’ve everything but the email portion of the suite. It’s lost my information three times now (everything in my inbox), and I refuse to use it anymore. Sigh… back to Outlook I guess. Has anybody else here had this problem? I’ve reported it to Bugzilla but no reply.
Sounds very bad, I hope you didn’t lose to much important e-mails.
I have personally used Mozilla-mail a couple of years and never lost my e-mails. But if a e-mail client had lost my e-mails I would have switched directly!
PS: Today I use the e-mail client in Opera, called M2.
I’ve been using Mozilla for the past two months, and I’ve everything but the email portion of the suite. It’s lost my information three times now (everything in my inbox), and I refuse to use it anymore. Sigh… back to Outlook I guess. Has anybody else here had this problem? I’ve reported it to Bugzilla but no reply.
Funny you complain about Mozilla mail problems and yet you fail to even provide a link to the bugzilla submission you have made. I have made one submission so far:
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226613
For me, I don’t use Mozilla mail and instead I prefer using Lotus Notes 6.5 on the Mac. For some reason when using MacOS Mail application when using it to hook into the IMAP server I use, when I delete something locally the server isn’t updated. Could someone inform me whether there is a bugzilla for MacOS?
or is it OS X only..?
Yes, it is OSX only. check out wamcom’s browser suite, though, it is based on mozilla and available for OS9. http://www.wamcom.org/
I’ve been using Mozilla Mail since version 1.0 2 years ago.. never lost 1 single e-mail with it and I’ve installed alphas, betas and nightlies too during that time.
Are you sure you really lost it and it’s not in another directory in your profile directory? I’ve heard of people with this same problem. All you need to do then is copy everything from 1 directory to the other current directory.
I would be very surprised if an e-mail client just erases all your e-mail with notification. It’s probably still on your harddisk somewhere, but where Mozilla Mail can’t see it.
all your e-mail with notification
should be: all your e-mail without notification
Been using Mozilla Mail since 1.0, no problems. Never lost an e-mail.
The email is stored in a nice open mbox format anyway, so you can always just backup (and text editor
the Mail folder anyway, unlike outlook.
Mozilla Mail rocks!
How can anyone use such a product to write read mails ?
My compagny uses it since version 4.XXX and You can’t customize the way replies are written I’ve recently learned that’s it doable but you need to code something in order to be able to correctly quotes mails. Notes brekas mail thredaing by ignoring references headers …
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http://homepage.mac.com/softkid/
Hi there,
does anyone know how is the status of Camino? Will there be any further development? I still prefer it over Safari, but I have to admit, that Safari has fewer bugs than Camino. For example since updating to Panther there is a funny problem with the tabs, one or two pixel lines over the tabs, there is the content of the page displayed. I suppose that happens because the new tabs are thinner than the old ones. Not really annoying, but it has to be updated. Also I have huge problems with selection lists, mostly they dont work.
greetings from Anton
If Mozilla Mail is the same as Thunderbird Mail, then I too have lost information from it. It kept giving a prefs.js file is corrupted error, and if not that then other files were courrupted. Luckily I used Outlook Express along with it in that I would check mail with Thunderbird but leave messages on the server, then check with OE to download them off the server. I never filed a bug report because I don’t understand how to use bugzilla or file reports
Sorry to hear that, but as someone else already pointed out, the mail is probably still somewhere on your HD.
But i guess it’s a freak accident; in our small office (about 30 seats) we deploy the Mozillasuite (1.2 up to 1.5) on a mixed environment of MS Windows, GNU/Linux (Suse and Debian) and Macs (well, only 1 for graphics and i don’t remember setting up Moz on it ;-)) and we never had a data loss unless we had a “user intervention” (once; on an old W98 box)
Camino development has slowed down considerably, but download the latest nightly build (use CaminoKnight), the cosmetic tab problem is fixed for 10.3
I’ve been using Mozilla 1.5 on my ThinkPad at work (XP). The mail component seems pretty reliable to me. I installed Mozilla on XP because the Outlook/IE combo just seemed to be an invitation for a virus, or some other form of malicious mischief. I have no such fears on OS X. Safari and Mail do a good job. I have heard rumors about OmniWeb 5, and I’ll probably check that out once it is released.
Try Firebird for OSX. Works great! Even displays the little icons for websites in the Bookmarks toolbar.
OK… since most web pages are made for IE, and Mozilla is a better browser all around… why doesn[t the Mozilla.org group just clone IE… not the way it looks or acts… but just in the type of HTML is can render?
I am totally aware that giving Microsoft the actual standard instead of the defacto standard will be a huge blow to the community, but I am getting a little sick of certain pages loading oddly in my Mozilla browser on Linux.
Just a thought. Flame on.
The mozilla group has decided to follow web standards, instead of attempting to be a poor clone of Internet Explorer.
If it’s possible that my old emails are still around on my hard drive, please PLEASE let me know where to look. Mozilla freaks out every once in a while on my machine (loses its homepage setting, loses email settings), and when I reset up my email, none of the emails are still there. Occasionally if I just restart Mozilla (without resetting the email) it’ll “find” the old settings, but usually I just have to redo everything. BTW, I never use alpha or beta versions (this is win32 platform). Any help would be appreciated (cuz I do love using the product).
P.S. I’ll look for my Bugzilla entry. I don’t really know how it works, so give me some time.
So far with OS X, most of Apple’s innovation seems to be “cut and paste” and “copy from open source”.
I am very disappointed with Apple’s browser. First of all, for copying all their code from KDE without putting anything back for months and months.
But most of all, I am disappointed because Safari is a sad excuse for a native Mac browser. It’s dumbed-down on features… sort of like what would be the “iBrowse” scrub-app.
Mozilla works with more sites, offers better features, and gives people who use more than one platform a much nicer ride.
Apple is going to be blown away when they see the browser that is going to show up in Longhorn final release.
Look in C:Documents and SettingsusernameApplication DataMozillaProfilesdefault
tghuy5d.sltMail directory
If you see several other directories which are ending with *-1 *-2 *-3 and so on.. those contain your old emails.
username = your username you use to log into Windows
rtghuy5d.slt = is a random directory name (for security reasons), but it always ends with .slt
If you find 1 or more of those directories you can rename the files and other directories in it and copy them to your currently used Mail directory (renaming is necesary, otherwise you overwrite your current email and you’ll lose that for sure
)
Make sure you quit Mozilla before doing that (also the quicklaunch)
When you fire up Moz after that you’ll notice Moz Mail just added those files as inboxes and now you can move them to the proper inbox and delete the rest.
use firebird for browsing and
thunderbird for email
i have yet to lose any mail.
the only thing firebird lacks is a download status
dialog like in mozilla where all your downloads are
tracked.
works great on windows, worked fine on mac os x
the last time i had a mac.
I’m afraid MacNN got it wrong – those “new features” it listed were actually for the 1.5 release, which was available for Mac OS X on 15th October. The only “new feature” in 1.5.1 is a download crash fix for OS X 10.1 (later OS X users don’t even need to upgrade from 1.5 !). Of course, unlike MacNN, I actually read the Releases page at http://www.mozilla.org/releases/
“Apple is going to be blown away when they see the browser that is going to show up in Longhorn final release.”
And what exactly are you basing this opinion on? There’s two years of changes to be made by both Apple and Microsoft. I doubt the developers for either have little idea what the status of their browsers are going to be in relation to each other by then. I think you’re reading way too much of your own bias into a situation that has small enough concrete facts to warrent much of an opinion regarding the state of either of them in such a large time frame.
Yep, Mozilla uses THE web standarts. Unlike MS that make some
IE only “standarts” screw up some web standarts etc…
I read somewhere [maybe a couple of years ago]that MS was said to release IE code…
mm. BUT I don’t see that hapening
When you first used Mozilla, did you set up a profile? I seem to dimly remember Moz being very glitchy with me for a while until I set myself up a profile. After that, it has worked perfectly for me, no probs at all.
If that is the case, there should be a program somewhere that will do that stuff for you. Can’t remember where (as my computer has been requisitioned!).
btw – the system I was using was NT. No probs at all on W98 or Mandrake Linux.
microsoft has a ton of bugs.. then there are strange to html fixes. .that look more like windows programming than html. mozilla is better off sticking with the standard.
I found it a little amusing to read your comments. After all, thunderbird and firebird are just the stand alone portions of the mozilla _suite_ not completely different apps.
As someone else has already noted, Camino development has slowed down considerably, unfortunately. Apparently, only one developer is still working on Camino (in his spare time), virtually no one does QA work etc.
I am not a Mac user myself, but if you care about the Camino project, I am sure you can help them a little with e.g. bug reporting/triaging.
Look in C:Documents and SettingsusernameApplication DataMozillaProfilesdefaultrtghuy5d.sltMail directory
If you see several other directories which are ending with *-1 *-2 *-3 and so on.. those contain your old emails.
First he/she will have to set windows to show hidden folders (like the Application Data Folder).
This fellow can always search the harddrive for a directory named “your ISP.mail.server.com” in this path – note the allietory dir name after “default” dir and open the “Inbox” file with “WordPad” (in my PC win2k it is = the same on Macs):
C:Documents and SettingsAdministratorApplication DataMozillaProfilesdefault
yo9voep.sltMail
Just trying to help.
I never lost any email with Mozilla or Thunderbird. (I could lose the sapm email).
I think Mozilla is almost exactly the same (at least in the core and gui ?) in PC and Macs due to the XUL interface.
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/mozilla/
I might be wrong since I know nothing about OS X Acqua or wahtever it’s called (for now).
Oh, that’s right. There’s no Opera 7 for OS X yet. That figures why this is interesting.
…does anyone have any info about the whole .mng mess? I want it back in. I’m one of the “few” people who actually use it. :<
Hi
Mozilla firebird and thunderbird are not only the standalone versions of mozilla. They use a different user interface and stuff which is simply better designed to fit the needs the end user. The latest nightly build of firebird has the downloads in a single window and it looks cool too.
Regards
Rahul
I suppose you’re speaking about the removing of .mng support in Mozilla. Well, it’s still the same mess. It’s still the most voted “bug” on Bugzilla, but there is no sign of improvement.