“Apple researchers have built a full working prototype of a Mac tablet PC and three Companies in Taiwan are now costing a product for a potential launch in mid 2007. Sources in Taiwan have said that the focus has been more on the home and the education environment than the enterprise marketplace. Several months ago I was told that Apple was exploring a neat new device that is basically a touch screen that links to various source devices including a brand new media centre that Apple is planning to launch next year. The Mac tablet has been designed to handle third party applications such as home automation software that will allow users to control lighting, audio, entertainment devices and security feeds. It also acts as a full blown PC has wireless linking for a new generation of Wireless Hi Fi speakers that are currently being tested by Apple.”
Media centers have been flops for microsoft, but tablets look pretty cool. I’ve always wanted one but don’t want to run windows full time
I dunno, I just can’t live without a keyboard…
Ink hand-writing recognition in OS X is pretty good, I’ve had the pleasure of using it several times. Some very nice tools for use with tablets.
If this is a full-blown laptop/tablet PC, and it uses the Wacom Penabled stuff, I’ll buy one. I’ve been waiting for something like this for a long time.
Still you’ll type faster on the keyboard instead of hand writing.
That’s why pocketpcs are popular with keyboards, and tabletPCs have laptops convertible versions
Assuming text only. Even then that only applies to the more computer literate crowd and a few others.
Try taking any other kind of note and you’ll find tablets are useful. Consider diagrams. Sure you could switch back and forth between Visio and Word, but I assure you that it’s easier just to through down the doodle in Journal. Math notes are especially painful with just a keyboard. I recall being thankful for hand-writing features when taking down history, psychology, and philosophy notes.
When I wanted to code I’d just turn the keyboard around and ssh and start coding. And yes, I do mean SSH since I generally found tablets a little anemic in terms of horsepower, but mine is a 1st gen (Acer TravelMate).
While what you said was strictly true, I find that argument fallacious.
PS- I found the handwriting recognition excellent
I think this is a logical step for Apple, and one of the missing pieces in their platform. There was some discussion of a “secret” feature in Leopard, perhaps pervasive tablet support is it. I hope it doesn’t feel as “tacked-on” as the tablet support in XP does (at least, that’s my subjective experience). Not that it didn’t work well, the handwriting recognition was fine, for example.
If true, this fits with Apple’s market positioning as a lifestyle device. The expressiveness of a tablet, the ease of sharing drafts, markups, etc. as an alternate to the keyboard and mouse, it’s only natural to go back to the pen.
Math notes are especially painful with just a keyboard. I recall being thankful for hand-writing features when taking down history, psychology, and philosophy notes.
I recall taking math classes with my laptop… using LaTeX, Metapost and xfig for some figures. Ok, I had a friend that took notes the classic way I could peek on if needed (actually it was more for the figures, as I was playing with metapost — using a “normal” figure editor or xfig all the way that wouldn’t have been necessary), still, it was fairly cool to have very, very nice notes at the end of the class without much effort
(and frankly, between writing the maths formulas by hand or via a formula editor, LaTeX editing beat them all)
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True, but you won’t be writing your thesis on this device either. For shorter notes and related things while away from your real computer with a keyboard I think this device will work very well.
Ink hand-writing recognition in OS X is pretty good, I’ve had the pleasure of using it several times. Some very nice tools for use with tablets.
It’s actually a descendant of the HWR on the Newton, which contrary to the legend, was actually fairly incredible (seriously, that’s the only HWR that really worked for me). [note that the problems with the Newton were actually true… on the first newton, and for a stupid reason: a combination of low ram and a bug rendered the HWR nearly unusable. But later versions were really, really good, and you need to try Newton OS 2 to see what’s a PDA is supposed to be].
I would love to have a Newton-like OS, but I doubt it will happen… Anyway this tablet certainly won’t be a PDA, more a kind of remote control/media center thingy (although nothing prevent Apple to extend it to the mp3/video player / pda world, and I expect them to do so later on !)
“Pretty good” is a pretty subjective term. I’d say it’s pretty lame, specially if you do not type in pretty English, French or German, in which case the “recognition” pretty much does not exist.
Given that this is apparantly meant to be a media center interface, there’s not a great need for much typing. If you are going to sit down and type, you can always use an external keyboard.
That said, I’ll believe it when I see it.
Optional bluetooth keyboard??
Media centers have been flops for microsoft
Thats why MCE 2005 is pretty much on every PC from Dell and HP.
>>Media centers have been flops for microsoft
>Thats why MCE 2005 is pretty much on every PC from Dell and HP.
Sure.
Give us a break, it’s WinXP Home all over the place, MCE a small minority. Just check those manufacturers’ websites.
Sure. Give us a break, it’s WinXP Home all over the place, MCE a small minority. Just check those manufacturers’ websites.
A moot point. Vista ships with MC integrated. So, it’s going to be on every PC sold from January on…
Vista ships with MC integrated.
MC is not present in Vista Home Basic or Vista Business, just Home Premium and Ultimate.
MC is not present in Vista Home Basic or Vista Business, just Home Premium and Ultimate.
All the Dell’s I mentioned that come with MCE 2005 come with a free upgrade to Windows Vista Home Premium.
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Give us a break, it’s WinXP Home all over the place, MCE a small minority. Just check those manufacturers’ websites.
The E520 range. All have MCE 2005.
http://www.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/cto_dimene520?c=…
E521. 3 out of 4 have MCE 2005.
http://www.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/cto_dimene521?c=…
XPS. All have MCE 2005
http://www.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/xpsdt?c=us&cs=19…
Shall I go on?
also remember that MCE is a new product and xp home has been around longer.
>Media centers have been flops for microsoft,
(Sigh)..
According to http://news.com.com/2061-10792_3-6136873.html
“In July, both Live and Viiv accounted for 8 percent of the desktop U.S. retail market each. In August, Live moved up to 9 percent while Viiv stayed at 8 percent. In September, Live moved up to 12 percent while Live accounted for 11 percent. In October, Live jumped to 17 percent and Live moved to 15 percent.”
Media Centres PCs are in the growth stage.
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no pictures? Sad but then again it’s just a prototype so it’s forgivable. Anyway the idea is great and I would get one if the price is right. It’ll make for a great ebook reader as well.
I am sure that many of you remember the combination laptop/desktop computer that Apple once made. Essentially, the laptop would plug into the tower, and when you wanted to do work on the road, you just removed the laptop and off you went. I believe the tower hosted such things as an additional hard drive (or nowadays a DVD burner), the math co-processor, or some such things. I wonder if Apple would ever consider creating such a device again with the rumored tablet?
There’s just no market for a tablet outside the geek crowd. Apple’s crazy about communication so even if video and audio chats are nice, very many people type each other messages. There’s no way it’s going to be quick with a handwriting recognition. And having an external keyboard means it essentially turns into a notebook. So while it might look cool, home users will not approve of this, think of all the learning and confusion they’ll have to face.
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There will be no need for keyboards or character typing as there will be two extra buttons on the remote control, which also happens to contain the numeric keypad:
Button 1: Buy: AAPL – _enter amount_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ -,00
Button 2: Sell: MSFT – _enter amount_ _ ALL: – OK
go to -> TV
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Ohh Apple Apple Apple, what are you doing to me, all this cool stuff you will be releasing is just what ive been waiting for, first i started with the MacBook, Then the Ipod and Apple HiFi, Next will have to be the iTV and as an addition, wireless speakers and this nice new tablet to power it all with … Your gonna bankrupt me if you keep this up … ohh go on then keep it up, who needs money to live anyway
EDIT :- Spelling !
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I’m looking forward to the next great leap for Apple, and that’s ERP. Why ERP? Because right now ERP applications suck, suck just like you would’nt believe. Apple is going to build a series of ERP apps that will blow away anything available, and sell a ton of hardware in the process. I truly expect to see a full blooded Financial Suite this summer running on the XServer, a suite so good looking, easy to use, and incredibly easy to maintain, it will have company sponsors salivating.
With Wireless Keyboards and Mice, Are Docking stations important anymore? The only thing left to plug in is an external display.
There is some demand for tablets amongst digital artists. However the current crop of tablet pcs are pretty anaemic.
Part of this is the tradeoff in price for the screen, battery life etc.
It seems that current tablets are more targetted at the business crowd than the average consumer. I’ve seen them used in retail, logistics, upper management and a little in education but thats about it.
I think it would be nice if it was quite small – ie, 10″ widescreen, to make it truly portable and therefore much more used/versatile. An overgrown PDA with full OS capabilities.
I would love to see the docking station used to make the tablet available as a display to a Mac Mini. Sync the two, grab your tablet and go. Include iTunes support and you’ve got a portable media centre as well. This seems to be really good marketing positioning by Apple.
First the device should pass a panel of highly experienced, somehow sissy, fashion-conscious and design geniuses if it is to be passed as a production product.
If Apple feels that the product is not PRACTICAL it would kill it.
Apple philosophy is to choose easy to use, highly practical and useful devices even if the functions or features supplied are not many. (5-10 features but very well done features).
Good Luck for Apple anyway.
“somehow sissy”?
What do you mean?
Bad term – nasty connotations. Grow up, please.
What do you mean?
The kind of guys who go in for manicures, pedicures & facials. The kind of guys who like show tunes. Sound familiar?
Maybe it’s Newton’resurrection, armed with a giant MS-bashing apple tree.
As MS has learned, these devices are really just niche products. People tend to buy them for very specific purposes (ie. medical charting, manufacturing inventory control, etc), rather than broad market usage. It’s kind of a shame, really. I mean, these kinds of devices can be used in a dual role — keyboard for word processing, stylus for more interactive tasks.
and portable mp3 players were a pretty niche market too before the iPod. it is amazing what assembling things in a clever and useful way can do.